I think I have orange peel
10-23-2013, 02:50 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
Funny, go into a BMW showroom and look down the length of the most expensive model on the floor. They have some pretty severe peel for a luxury car. Maybe I'm too critical, but for over a hundred geez...........................................maybe not.
10-23-2013, 03:18 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
No worries my friend orange peel by nature is a surface imperfection, so be happy, you can get rid if it if you want to !!
10-23-2013, 04:26 PM
#20
There's orange peel that truly does look like the skin of an orange. Ugly a mile away. Close inspection not required. No Porsche like that ever left the factory. Then there's 'orange peel' that can only be seen if you look very closely at just the right angle under just the right light. Then of course there's everything in between. I've seen a lot of Porsches, and I'm getting the feeling a lot of guys are looking at the latter and acting like its the former. Let's get real. I'm interested to know just what we're talking about here.
10-23-2013, 04:56 PM
#21
Paint thickness
Just remember the clear coat on our cars is only about .002 inch thick.
Every time you use a polish not wax you take some off. If you sand you take even more off. If you go through the clear coat you will have to get new clear coat at the very least resprayed and maybe the whole panel repainted.
If you take it to the right professional they should have a paint thickness gauge
that might help in knowing how much they have to work with. But even this is tricky since the gauge will measure the entire thickness and has a tolerance on its measurement accuracy.
Every time you use a polish not wax you take some off. If you sand you take even more off. If you go through the clear coat you will have to get new clear coat at the very least resprayed and maybe the whole panel repainted.
If you take it to the right professional they should have a paint thickness gauge
that might help in knowing how much they have to work with. But even this is tricky since the gauge will measure the entire thickness and has a tolerance on its measurement accuracy.
10-23-2013, 05:14 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
Can we get pics?
I mean, my paint has a slight, slight waviness to it if I look really closely and hold the light just right, but it's certainly nothing I'd call an imperfection.
I mean, my paint has a slight, slight waviness to it if I look really closely and hold the light just right, but it's certainly nothing I'd call an imperfection.
10-23-2013, 05:17 PM
#23
Race Car
If you want to see classic orange peel take a look at the C7 Vette. It is worse than on any GM product. Your 991 is a smooth as a <insert your idea of smooth here>.
10-23-2013, 05:36 PM
#24
I have been using a random orbital polisher on my BMW for more than 10 years with swirl remover and polish and not even close to getting through the clear coat. In order to do damage you would have to use some really abrasive compound or sandpaper.
10-23-2013, 07:29 PM
#25
Drifting
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There's orange peel that truly does look like the skin of an orange. Ugly a mile away. Close inspection not required. No Porsche like that ever left the factory. Then there's 'orange peel' that can only be seen if you look very closely at just the right angle under just the right light. Then of course there's everything in between. I've seen a lot of Porsches, and I'm getting the feeling a lot of guys are looking at the latter and acting like its the former. Let's get real. I'm interested to know just what we're talking about here.
10-23-2013, 08:55 PM
#26
We all do. I've never seen what others describe, at least not on any Porsche factory paint. No it is not absolutely flat, but you really have to go looking for it to notice. And that's from a guy who loves to spot paint flaws. Your average car, or even your average well above-average car, has a lot more areas that could stand to be improved first.
10-23-2013, 09:52 PM
#27
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Exactly where is this 'orange peel' paint you are referring to? There is a section on the lower rocker panels that is covered with a protective finish and then painted that would resemble this. However, this protective finish is supposed to look like this.
10-23-2013, 09:53 PM
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Also check with Matt at Detailing Dynamics, Mineola, tell him I sent you. They can examine what's going on and make some suggestions.
Most Porsches, Mercedes, BMWs and others have this, and I've seen it on slab sided SUV's too - where it was hideous. On the smaller cars it usually is not quite as bad.
Good luck.
Most Porsches, Mercedes, BMWs and others have this, and I've seen it on slab sided SUV's too - where it was hideous. On the smaller cars it usually is not quite as bad.
Good luck.
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10-23-2013, 10:31 PM
#30
Burning Brakes
Jeeze guys it's not like you are lookin' at the side of a mackerel. So relax most people never micro-analyze the paint. The OP must have a keen eye and commented on what he observed.
What we are discussing is top tier detail work usually reserved for show cars, customs, hot rods, over restored muscle and classic cars. This is over the top ****-retentive stuff which takes a lot of time and/or money.
The factory paint job on the Porsche is better than 95% of all OEM manufacturers, this exercise goes beyond the factory spray to way over the next level.
The best example I can give is if you color sand and polish a pure black (no flake) Porsche, it will literally blow your mind. Liquid black glass is the best I can describe it.
What we are discussing is top tier detail work usually reserved for show cars, customs, hot rods, over restored muscle and classic cars. This is over the top ****-retentive stuff which takes a lot of time and/or money.
The factory paint job on the Porsche is better than 95% of all OEM manufacturers, this exercise goes beyond the factory spray to way over the next level.
The best example I can give is if you color sand and polish a pure black (no flake) Porsche, it will literally blow your mind. Liquid black glass is the best I can describe it.