911 50th Anniv. Ed. or GT3
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No one here has driven the 991 GT3 so any suggestions are speculation. I tried hard to love a 997 GT3 before getting a 991 S and found that the suspension compromises for general street use (most of my use) were not acceptable to me. The 991 with its longer wheelbase and available front lit kit might be whole lot more livable that that was. But I would not bet on it. It has no more torque than a standard 991 S, the last 500 RPM are up there in the "explain it to the judge" end of the tach, and the suspension is track optimized. Porsche has a lot to prove with this car. On looks alone- I do think it works far better as a 991 than the 50th. Retro has a way of dating itself as "retro" rather than good design, IMHO. But no doubt a 50 yr anniversary car with Sport PASM added to the X51 and one of the optional colors would be a sweet ride with more than enough power and handling for the street.
If past history is any indication a 991 GTS should be available the year before the end of the 991 model run when Porsche needs to clear out the parts bin, in oh, 6 or 7 years.
If past history is any indication a 991 GTS should be available the year before the end of the 991 model run when Porsche needs to clear out the parts bin, in oh, 6 or 7 years.
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I have 21 months left on my 991S lease - I hope the GTS will be available by then. I loved my 997.2 GTS, but wanted the improved handling of the 991.
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#18
I may need to go to Stuttgart to see the 50th anniversary Geyser Grey and Graphite Grey in person to make the decision easier. I don't necessarily need back seats, but I do drive quite a bit for daily work. I don't want to be peeing blood all day from a track tuned suspension from a daily driver. I will wait to see how much "user friendly" the GT3 is as a daily driver. Thinking either Monochrome Black for the 991 50th anniversary edition or Sapphire Blue Metallic if I go with the GT3.
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I may need to go to Stuttgart to see the 50th anniversary Geyser Grey and Graphite Grey in person to make the decision easier. I don't necessarily need back seats, but I do drive quite a bit for daily work. I don't want to be peeing blood all day from a track tuned suspension from a daily driver. I will wait to see how much "user friendly" the GT3 is as a daily driver. Thinking either Monochrome Black for the 991 50th anniversary edition or Sapphire Blue Metallic if I go with the GT3.
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I may need to go to Stuttgart to see the 50th anniversary Geyser Grey and Graphite Grey in person to make the decision easier. I don't necessarily need back seats, but I do drive quite a bit for daily work. I don't want to be peeing blood all day from a track tuned suspension from a daily driver. I will wait to see how much "user friendly" the GT3 is as a daily driver. Thinking either Monochrome Black for the 991 50th anniversary edition or Sapphire Blue Metallic if I go with the GT3.
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I am finding this thread a bit difficult to understand. The 991-50 is a specially optioned, street, daily driver, with 30 extra hp. The extra hp will only be noticed under more extreme driving conditions (such as track driving)
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
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I am finding this thread a bit difficult to understand. The 991-50 is a specially optioned, street, daily driver, with 30 extra hp. The extra hp will only be noticed under more extreme driving conditions (such as track driving)
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
Totally agree. They're totally different cars for different needs.
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I am finding this thread a bit difficult to understand. The 991-50 is a specially optioned, street, daily driver, with 30 extra hp. The extra hp will only be noticed under more extreme driving conditions (such as track driving)
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
Since you state that you will spend 1% on the track, this doesn't apply.
Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
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Unlike the previous iterations of the GT3 ( and I've had two of them) the new GT3 is a definite track animal that can be tolerated in getting you to the track and back home again. It is a far cry from the almost DD ability of the previous GT3s.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
To me it's a no brainer. If you want a comfortable, collectable, special daily driver you have to get the 991-50. The GT3 will be not really suitable for your needs and you will probably wind up selling it (as so many initial buyers of the previous GT3s) when you find out that the car is really not comfortable unless you are in the upper ranges of the RPM band.
But I guess the proof of the pudding is ...
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I think the seat thing is Porsche's way of duping some into thinking this car may be a DD. Whenever I am at the track, most GT3's that are running have changed the seats and put the Euro seats in.
#29
Indeed, Suzy, but you can't order the regular Sport seat, only the Sport Plus. The regular Sport seat (4-way or 14-way) isn't as tight or confining and is therefore more comfortable for those of us who are circumferentially challenged.
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