Optioning a Base 991 for most 'feel'
05-13-2013, 10:21 PM
#32
Rennlist Member
Not exactly. The 030 option code has always been the 'sport suspension' option, both here and elsewhere; it was not standard on ROW models. However, the option has only been available sporadically on US Porsche models. For instance, the 997.1 had a 030 non-PASM ROW sport suspension option. When the option changed to a PASM-based sport suspension with the 997.2, it became available as an option for the US.
05-13-2013, 10:35 PM
#33
Most 'feel' and 'involvement' a la Spyder would be a car without PASM or SPASM. With 'active' dampers there is a layer of computer intervention between your butt and the road - and therefore less of the analog 'feel' that the Spyder is all about.
Your butt will feel less forward thrust in a base 991 compared to the Spyder as well...
Your butt will feel less forward thrust in a base 991 compared to the Spyder as well...
It could be the extra refinement of the 991 that could and altering the butt dyno, but yes I agree - the spyder seemed to have a bit more perceived thrust. Not sure that it was moving any faster but certainly very close to the 991 cab.
You are also sitting lower in a spyder with the buckets, there is more noise and the shifter has slightly shorter throws than what I experienced in the 991 cab.
05-13-2013, 10:51 PM
#34
'Performance Sport Suspension' Option on 991...
But on a 991 Base Coupe! The combination of a Manual Transmission, 19" Wheels and Performance Sport Suspension (reduced height 20mm, stiffer springs & damper units)....that would be one sweet, sporting & economical (best value category!) 991! Perhaps we might see it in MY2014 when Porsche might feel the need to give their base 911 model some needed 'love & attention'...and to help shore up sales! We will see if that comes true!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Colorado
05-14-2013, 01:13 AM
#35
Eduardo,
I hope you are right. I've been considering a base 991. I really never used the sport setting of PASM on my RS and I'd prefer a sports suspension like the spyder in a 991.
I hope you are right. I've been considering a base 991. I really never used the sport setting of PASM on my RS and I'd prefer a sports suspension like the spyder in a 991.
05-14-2013, 09:07 AM
#36
Race Car
I can believe that for the track; it's nowhere near any limits on the stock base on any roads around here (be it smaller back roads, out by Shenandoah, etc.) at least not without looking at a reckless citation if a cop notices you. Having a bit of roll and some bumps passed along lets the car feel like it's at least thinking about the road in normal street driving, at least for me. 
05-14-2013, 09:23 AM
#37
The real problem is what constitutes "feel." Is an electronic damping control system, ie PASM/SPASM the ticket if you are going for raw "feel?" In 2005, the so-called "purists" said no on this website.
I'm just shocked that eight years later good people are talking about road feel and electronic suspension systems like it was a raw non-electronic system. Why do something half assed? Get the best electronic system there is to fully communicate with the road in a way that is the most efficient means of managing tire contact with the road? PDCC. If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. The 20th century is over, but I'm sure there's a good old Miata out there; they have excellent 20th century style road "feel."
I'm just shocked that eight years later good people are talking about road feel and electronic suspension systems like it was a raw non-electronic system. Why do something half assed? Get the best electronic system there is to fully communicate with the road in a way that is the most efficient means of managing tire contact with the road? PDCC. If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. The 20th century is over, but I'm sure there's a good old Miata out there; they have excellent 20th century style road "feel."
Last edited by holminator; 05-16-2013 at 07:00 PM.
05-14-2013, 12:53 PM
#38
Rennlist Member
But on a 991 Base Coupe! The combination of a Manual Transmission, 19" Wheels and Performance Sport Suspension (reduced height 20mm, stiffer springs & damper units)....that would be one sweet, sporting & economical (best value category!) 991! Perhaps we might see it in MY2014 when Porsche might feel the need to give their base 911 model some needed 'love & attention'...and to help shore up sales! We will see if that comes true!
