VC74

I need new tires and hate the original Pirellis. Dealer only wants to install the OE Pirellis, he says the Michelin pilot sport max is not N rated. I think I will still go with the Michelins and install them somewhere else...any opinions
thanks
991 s 2013

jrotsaert

I have Good Year F1s on the Spyder and the 991 and I really like them

chuckbdc

Mich Pilot SuperSports are the best tires I have ever run.

SM_ATL

I confirm this. Have had them on several cars.
Do not worry about the 'N'-rating.

Boxy

I concur, having aired a few hard to get 305/30/20 from UK, the PSS is day and night from P-Zero..

rnl

I looked at the tire rack web site and the Michelins are now N rated

spourreza

I have them as well but they feel too soft. Hate them

brianja

I had the GY F1 on a previous car. They were great in the wet and OK in the dry, but once they got closer to needing to be replaced they were very noisy. I didn't realize it because it happened very slowly over their lifespan, but when I changed to the Michelin PSS it was amazing how much quieter the car was.

parkerfe

If you use non-N rated tires, Porsche could give you some grief with a warranty claim on the ABS, PASM or any other system that relies on inputs from wheel speed to operate.

Cogito_Ergo_Zoom

Curious as to why you "hate" the OE Pirellis? I think they're a great all around tire for both street and track use. Low noise, good ride on street, solid in the wet; quick to get to operating temp on the track, good overall grip, predictable breakaway at the limit...you could do a lot worse.

That said, my next tire will likely be the PSS just so I can compare the two. I'm sure it's probably a better tire from all the rave reviews it gets here.

VC74

thanks everyone for the info...however apparently availability for the 2 front is bad (Michelin 245-35-20)! how can that be?? On a new tire?Dose that mean if I need to replace a front, ill need weeks before getting one?

Cogito_Ergo_Zoom

Yes, see the other recent thread where I posted about this. If you need new tires now (like me), the PSS are not an option. Tire Rack rep I spoke to said it would be 8 weeks minimum for fronts from time of order.

shizzle

I'm running PSS on my 19" wheels. 245/40/19 upfront and 295/35/19. I absolutely love these tires. Wet and dry grip is fantastic. I've even been using them for cooler track days, and I don't think i'm giving anything up to some of the higher performing non romp tires.

lspain

I used PSS's on my Cayman S after trying PS2's and Asymmetrics. The PSS's were absolutely superior in every way....dry grip, wet grip, wear, noise....you name it. They are good enough for Ferrari....they are good enough for Porsche.

One more thing....my dealer never said a word about warranty issues and happily installed the tires matching the Tire Rack price. When my Pirelli's are done....I will switch to the PSS's.

holminator

I hate them because they suck in wet conditions relative to the Pilots and I'm one of those guys that loves driving in the rain. P-Zeros are also more difficult to feel the threshold of when the tires reach optimal temperature and the tire tends to be too stiff when the outside air temperatures go below 50F. My experience with the zeros started on the Autobahn. In the last ten years, the zeros tire compound feels more rigid than 10 years ago. I would never buy them. Having gone through new tires every 6 months in Germany, I would say Michelins are the best.