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01-17-2013, 05:24 PM
#91
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A Car and Driver comparison a few months back between a Corvette Grand Sport and a 991S reinforces your comment. C&D found the Porsche to be fast and stable in the cold and rainy test conditions, while the Corvette was virtually undriveable. Unless this new C7 is a huge deprture from all the Corvettes that have gone before, it will be exceptional in some areas and only mediocre in others. By comparison, the 991 may not quite match it on track, but is overall a more complete and satisfying car both dynamically and quality-wise. Whether that's worth the price difference is up to each person and what they want and expect in a sports car, or any car for that matter.
01-17-2013, 06:07 PM
#92
Burning Brakes
I have a friend who has a Vette and lives in Maine. I asked him how it was in the snow. He said "snow...This thing can't drive through a bad weather report!"
01-17-2013, 06:23 PM
#93
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At the end of the day, someone gets to drive home in a Chevy, and someone else gets to drive home in a Porsche.
01-17-2013, 07:00 PM
#95
Btw, 991S 37th. Camaro ZL1 46th. And that is with the Camaro having the power to weight ratio advantage. Say what? Huh? What? However the ZR1 was 12th in 08. Also love that head up display.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html
Free your mind. Your *** will follow.
Respectfully,
Morphieus
PS c and d is corrupt. No compelling argument or evidence required. We all know it. Check their list of main advertisers if needed.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html
Free your mind. Your *** will follow.
Respectfully,
Morphieus
PS c and d is corrupt. No compelling argument or evidence required. We all know it. Check their list of main advertisers if needed.
01-17-2013, 07:10 PM
#96
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Errr, too much weight in the front? That might suck the fun out of driving it for me. Just me I guess. I'm okay with that epiphany. A lighter smaller front, mid-mounted engine would have been better. Oops, I just dumped chum into the water over at the Cayman tank. lol Everybody run!
Regarding the comment about the C&D test...that Vette was on Michelin Sport Cups. Try a gt3RS in the rain and come talk to me about scary.
01-17-2013, 07:53 PM
#97
Don't get me wrong- I MUCH prefer my 991 to a Vette. There really is no substitute for all around performance- and with the 991 for me real comfort. But I have the utmost respect for the Vette as a sports car value and the C7 looks to me like GM has taken it to another level.
Not one bad angle on the 991
01-17-2013, 08:04 PM
#98
Race Director
With all due respect, now allow me to correct you.
The Corvette wasn't on Michelin Sport Cups when driven in the rain for that test, it was on Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercars while the Porsche was on P Zeros. Both are full treaded tires, unlike the MPSC's, and both are rated by the Tire Rack as Max performance summer tires with wet weather (but limited cold-weather) capability . The Porsche was just much better at making use of that capability than the Corvette, to the point were it was still fun to drive in the wet while the Corvette was "downright dangerous".Granted, the C7 is supposedly improved. We'll see if it's managed to shed all of it's negative attributes......
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_comparison/
01-17-2013, 09:59 PM
#99
After reading through all of these posts, I have to conclude that with just a few exceptions, this is an elitist group that reinforces the sterotypes that abound about Porsche owners. It's amazing to me that so many posters have formed their conclusions about the C7 without ever having seen the car in person. In my case I will do something radical. I'll reserve my judgement until I actually get to drive the car and see it in person.
01-17-2013, 10:28 PM
#100
After reading through all of these posts, I have to conclude that with just a few exceptions, this is an elitist group that reinforces the sterotypes that abound about Porsche owners. It's amazing to me that so many posters have formed their conclusions about the C7 without ever having seen the car in person. In my case I will do something radical. I'll reserve my judgement until I actually get to drive the car and see it in person.
01-17-2013, 10:37 PM
#101
Race Car
After reading through all of these posts, I have to conclude that with just a few exceptions, this is an elitist group that reinforces the sterotypes that abound about Porsche owners. It's amazing to me that so many posters have formed their conclusions about the C7 without ever having seen the car in person. In my case I will do something radical. I'll reserve my judgement until I actually get to drive the car and see it in person.
01-17-2013, 11:10 PM
#103
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Allow me to correct myself. I posted that it was a C&D test. Looking back and finding the test, it was actually Motor Trend. My bad.
With all due respect, now allow me to correct you. The Corvette wasn't on Michelin Sport Cups when driven in the rain for that test, it was on Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercars while the Porsche was on PT Zeros. Both are full treaded tires, unlike the MPSC's, and both are rated by the Tire Rack as Max performance summer tires with wet weather (but limited cold-weather) capability . The Porsche was just much better at making use of that capability than the Corvette, to the point were it was still fun to drive in the wet while the Corvette was "downright dangerous".
Granted, the C7 is supposedly improved. We'll see if it's managed to shed all of it's negative attributes......
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_comparison/
With all due respect, now allow me to correct you.
The Corvette wasn't on Michelin Sport Cups when driven in the rain for that test, it was on Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercars while the Porsche was on PT Zeros. Both are full treaded tires, unlike the MPSC's, and both are rated by the Tire Rack as Max performance summer tires with wet weather (but limited cold-weather) capability . The Porsche was just much better at making use of that capability than the Corvette, to the point were it was still fun to drive in the wet while the Corvette was "downright dangerous".Granted, the C7 is supposedly improved. We'll see if it's managed to shed all of it's negative attributes......
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_comparison/
01-17-2013, 11:13 PM
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The level of insecurity on display in this thread is amazing. So many stereotypes being fulfilled, not just of Porsche owners, but of sports car drivers in general. You can get the same kind of thread in a Ferrari forum about Porsche, or in a Corvette forum about Mustangs.
Lots of people define themselves through their cars. I always find it a pathetic trait.
Lots of people define themselves through their cars. I always find it a pathetic trait.