What is conventional wisdom on clear bra?
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What is conventional wisdom on clear bra?
All - having collected already my first little clear-coat chip on the drive home from the dealer thanks to dirty nasty Houston highways; I believe I am going forward with the clear bra/stone-guard approach.
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill? The car will go to the track once in a while; but my primary concern is the detrius that litters the Houston roads.
Also any advice on using the dealer's offered service vs. an independent? Dealer in question is North Houston.
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill? The car will go to the track once in a while; but my primary concern is the detrius that litters the Houston roads.
Also any advice on using the dealer's offered service vs. an independent? Dealer in question is North Houston.
Burning Brakes
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hi, congrats on the car (love the color) 
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I'd also do the lower side rocker panels along the doors and even a larger cut along the rear wheel fender flare, a lot of small pebbles / rocks fly up along the sides there, I can hear them while driving. (I also had it done, so I'm perhaps a little biased)
Again congrats! I went with custom-cut Xpel Ultimate film by a good independent detailer, so maybe ask what clear bra materials they are using and who is doing the work for the dealer, etc.
-I'd also do the lower side rocker panels along the doors and even a larger cut along the rear wheel fender flare, a lot of small pebbles / rocks fly up along the sides there, I can hear them while driving. (I also had it done, so I'm perhaps a little biased)
Again congrats! I went with custom-cut Xpel Ultimate film by a good independent detailer, so maybe ask what clear bra materials they are using and who is doing the work for the dealer, etc.
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I've had nearly that extensive coverage with Ston-Gard for about 15 years. Newer materials are a lot less visible, but still there. So if you really value pristine appearance just realize its a tradeoff, beautiful paint with chips or beautiful paint covered up with less chips. When I first got mine a couple friends said they'd rather save the money and then later if the hood, etc gets bad enough have it sprayed and spend the money later. Didn't seem to make sense at the time. Ten years later, tired of looking at the line where the film ends, having to keep it clean, etc, that idea seemed a whole lot more appealing. No easy answers just food for thought.
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Thanks folks - pricing came in @ $1700 for the full monty and I'm going to go for it. There shouldn't be any cutlines on major surfaces so I am hoping the ability to keep it clean won't be too bad. Time will tell.
BTW: Nicoli35 - I'm jealous. Espresso interior was my first choice. Also your avatar photo makes the brakes seem tiny - at least in comparison to a fender well designed to fit 20" wheels.
BTW: Nicoli35 - I'm jealous. Espresso interior was my first choice. Also your avatar photo makes the brakes seem tiny - at least in comparison to a fender well designed to fit 20" wheels.
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I think I'm with chuck911. I understand why people get a clear bra, and they do have benefits, but I can't help but notice the film and to me it just doesn't look as good as a naked paint job. It's a close call which way to go, and while it's not nearly as bad as your grandma putting plastic on her couch, I still can't quite buy into the concept. Maybe I'd feel differently if I frequently drove roads with lots of gravel. My $.02.
Edit: Just missed your post that you went for it, RallyDog. Good luck, hope it turns out like you expect.
Edit: Just missed your post that you went for it, RallyDog. Good luck, hope it turns out like you expect.
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[QUOTE=RallyDogRacing;10115859]All - having collected already my first little clear-coat chip on the drive home from the dealer thanks to dirty nasty Houston highways; I believe I am going forward with the clear bra/stone-guard approach.
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill? The car will go to the track once in a while; but my primary concern is the detrius that litters the Houston roads.
Congratulations on the car.
I had the Expel product put on the exact same areas of my car.
I m very happy with it, i think the key is finding a good installer.
cheers
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill? The car will go to the track once in a while; but my primary concern is the detrius that litters the Houston roads.
Congratulations on the car.
I had the Expel product put on the exact same areas of my car.
I m very happy with it, i think the key is finding a good installer.
cheers
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I'm definitely having the front bumper covered when mine arrives, but I did the hood on my 997 and later had it removed because water spots from the rain were visible (barely, but enough to make it look worse). I received a refund from the installer from that portion and he couldn't understand why it happened. So, I'm going with the future-repaint option for that next time. No question on the front bumper though.
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I'm definitely having the front bumper covered when mine arrives, but I did the hood on my 997 and later had it removed because water spots from the rain were visible (barely, but enough to make it look worse). I received a refund from the installer from that portion and he couldn't understand why it happened. So, I'm going with the future-repaint option for that next time. No question on the front bumper though.
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Burning Brakes
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I'm in Houston and going naked. I've picked up a few chips since new but I'll deal with them when they get bad enough to bother me. I've had it on previous cars and I just don't like the way it looks, to each their own.
You do realize that the dealer will call in a contractor and then mark up his work? If you decide to do it, go to the source, I can recommend the guy who does most of them if you wish. $1700 sounds outrageous to me. The last clearbra I had done was the front facia and hood/mirrors of a MINI (by the guru guy) and it was around $450. I think they've added the Porsche tax.
You do realize that the dealer will call in a contractor and then mark up his work? If you decide to do it, go to the source, I can recommend the guy who does most of them if you wish. $1700 sounds outrageous to me. The last clearbra I had done was the front facia and hood/mirrors of a MINI (by the guru guy) and it was around $450. I think they've added the Porsche tax.
Burning Brakes
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All - having collected already my first little clear-coat chip on the drive home from the dealer thanks to dirty nasty Houston highways; I believe I am going forward with the clear bra/stone-guard approach.
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill?
What is the conventional wisdom on that today? The dealer is offering to do a full front end wrap for somewhere in the $1600 range which would be:
a. whole front facia
b. whole hood
c. both front wings/fenders
d. mirrors
e. up the A-pillars
f. across the top of the windshield back to the leading edge of the sunroof.
I am waiting for a call on the final price of that, but does anyone think that's serious over-kill?
I think it ran me around $2300 w/tax for the entire front to windshield/mirrors/side rockers/under door handles/replaced rear fender flare area with larger cut/... that is a custom-cut (not using pre-shaped pieces) and tucked under all edges and seams like under the headlights, etc. I also love your dogs in your avatar photo.
Just awesome man.Maybe it's crazy to add this expense, but my detailer demo'd the product - I saw the Xpel film repair itself with a little bit of lighter heat after I scratched a hole in it, amazing stuff. I've never added the underbody sprays or other dealer profit markups to any car in the past, but my (trusted) detailer really sold me on the Xpel and that's the only material I have experience with.
RallyDog, the espresso was on the car already on the lot, I can't take credit for anything but going for a good test drive and not being able to leave without that interior coming home with me
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On a Guards Red 991, is it a good idea to use a clear bra?
I know that Guards Red fade over the year and swirls are very apparents. The clear bra protects the car against UV rays. If you apply Cleay bra just on the front, does that mean that over the time you could have a two tone red car? Would it be better to cover the entire car? It seems that it doesn't make sense!!
Is there someone who tried Dr.ColorChip product?
On order: 991 4S Guards Red/black leather, black SportDesign wheels, aerokit
I know that Guards Red fade over the year and swirls are very apparents. The clear bra protects the car against UV rays. If you apply Cleay bra just on the front, does that mean that over the time you could have a two tone red car? Would it be better to cover the entire car? It seems that it doesn't make sense!!
Is there someone who tried Dr.ColorChip product?
On order: 991 4S Guards Red/black leather, black SportDesign wheels, aerokit
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Instructor
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I've had nearly that extensive coverage with Ston-Gard for about 15 years. Newer materials are a lot less visible, but still there. So if you really value pristine appearance just realize its a tradeoff, beautiful paint with chips or beautiful paint covered up with less chips. When I first got mine a couple friends said they'd rather save the money and then later if the hood, etc gets bad enough have it sprayed and spend the money later. Didn't seem to make sense at the time. Ten years later, tired of looking at the line where the film ends, having to keep it clean, etc, that idea seemed a whole lot more appealing. No easy answers just food for thought.
Rather have a few chips and respray at some stage than cover that beautiful paint with plastic !
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i went with the full clear bra on my hood: no visible lines at all-I would never go for partial hood for the reasons of visible lines etc. I plan on keeping my car and the bra is barely noticeable, the new materials are amazing. Re-painted body panels are not my thing and are certainly not great for re-sale. to me the cost of 1700.00 was worth every penny! Good luck.
Burning Brakes
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My 997 is a DD and has a few chips on the bumper and bonnet. I plan to cover the bumper, but am a little confused about the bonnet. How much can you actually polish up a car that has been covered? Does it look the same as one without?
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i went with the full clear bra on my hood: no visible lines at all-I would never go for partial hood for the reasons of visible lines etc. I plan on keeping my car and the bra is barely noticeable, the new materials are amazing. Re-painted body panels are not my thing and are certainly not great for re-sale. to me the cost of 1700.00 was worth every penny! Good luck.