Pincomar

I have had 3 4s cars (996, 997.1 and 997.2) and they have all be been fantastic as everyday cars (NJ, CA and TN). I have been stalking all the dealer webistes waiting for the first 991's to arrive so I can drive one. There is a dealer in Atlanta with this car due soon (and no, I don't work in the motor industry). $161k for a 991 4s, wow!

456 - Adaptive cruise control incl.
XYA - PDK gear selector in Aluminum
630 - Light Design Package
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6-disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
682 - Burmester(R) Sound System
P3A - Burmester© Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
666 - Telephone module
CTK - Air vents in leather
XUB - Headlamp cleaner exterior clr
CUJ - Fuse box cover in leather
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
CWK - Vehicle key painted
653 - Sunroof in glass
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
XRT - 20-inch SportTechno wheel
636 - ParkAssist (front and rear)
425 - Rear windshield wiper
748 - Electric folding ext. mirrors
CNL - Wing mirror (lower part) paint
450 - PCCB
176 - Sport Exhaust System
CZW - Additional lther pkg dashboard
XHB - Center console trim in leather
XHS - Rear center tunnel in leather
XNS - Steering column casing leather
XPT - Storage bin lid with Crest
671 - Voice Control
UN1 - Online Services
XSH - Seat belts in Silver Grey
CEE - Rear footwell lighting
022 - Instrument Dials in Black
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
640 - Sport Chrono Package
583 - Smoking package
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
XSC - Porsche Crest on headrests
998 - Natural leather interior

Too rich for me.

Mark.

OldGuy

Thats my problem right now. Sticker shock. I have one ordered but jimminy Christmas.
I did a power package performance only outside of full leather and adaptive seats and
I am into the $140 range. And the dealer is just offering me beans for trades
my 2009 911 S PDK and a 2011 X5M loaded. He wants pretty close to retail and to auction my two
cars. Its not like I am trading in a Passat and a volvo, but he told me flat out, I want to get your cars
in and get em out. I am not getting a warm fuzzy. Right now I am seriously thinking of just keeping my 997.2

holminator

I could slash and burn options for yah like Sherman, riding through Georgia. Just say the word, Mark. What color is the thing?

Pincomar

Sorry, didn't get past the price! The car is GT Silver Metallic with Espresso natural lthr interior.

Mark.

pfijcali

My suggestion is order the C4S you want, and forget to pick one up from the dealer lot. Save $$$'s.

chuckbdc

That sounds like the perfect car to ignore. I believe that Porsche plans to make others.

holminator

Go back to the dealer and tell him you will give him $80k for the car and throw in two packs of smokes, a corncob pipe, and three kicks in the nuts.

fester

Guys, to each his own. Lets respect personal choices! Thanks.

Mike in CA

No doubt it's a really nice car but there are at least $30K worth of options that I could personally do without very easily and still have a really nice car. I second the opinion that if you buy a 991, order one to your spec, and not one that has had almost every box checked on the order form.

simsgw

Well, me too, if Mark wanted a cheaper C4 and wanted to start from that example for some reason. But the scary thing is I only see a few options on there that disqualified cars for my own consideration. Notably, the PCCB's and the AWD immediately add $16-$20k to the MSRP. I don't remember offhand, but something like that. Add some fripperies like a painted key, leather on the air vents, and that funky cruise control. Pretty soon those amount to another $5k and reaching for $10k. Somebody had a pretty high-end bunch of potential buyers in mind.

On the other hand, it isn't new to this year, guys. I wanted to try a GT3 and they gave me the keys to an example to "mess around in the canyons for awhile." Lovely car, usually we think of them as track-day cars, right? Not exclusively of course, but intended for buyers with serious track time planned. This car had the base price of a 997 GT3, something like $115k if I remember correctly. But the bottom line -- without mark-up -- was $161,500. They had nearly fifty thousand worth of options on top of that pretty high base MSRP.

And I noticed it was sold next time I was in the dealer. Of course, their Lambo shop next door and the Ferrari house down the street must move a couple of dozen units each month that make that GT3 seem cheap in their market.

Hollywood isn't Dubuque. And Dubuque isn't Smallville. Markets vary.

Gary

Jef96

I just had the C4S for 3 days, what an awesome beast! Ready to order

TT Surgeon

OG, 140k is nuts for a c4s that will depreciate 50% in three yrs.
Turbo money, without the performance.
My advice is to keep your very nicely setup c2s.
C

fester

4s holds its resale much better than 2S!