991 base Carrera v Boxster S...
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I agree with Galion (at least I think I do.) People choose either a 911 or a Boxster for lots of different reasons besides a miniscule straight-line performance difference. The backseat/storage of a 911 is important to some, the track-ready 2 seater roadster aspect of the Boxster is what others want. It's been a known factor since the Cayman came out that it's been "kept in its place" horsepowerwise, but people still buy them because the handling/utility of that platform also has its virtues.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
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I agree with Galion (at least I think I do.) People choose either a 911 or a Boxster for lots of different reasons besides a miniscule straight-line performance difference. The backseat/storage of a 911 is important to some, the track-ready 2 seater roadster aspect of the Boxster is what others want. It's been a known factor since the Cayman came out that it's been "kept in its place" horsepowerwise, but people still buy them because the handling/utility of that platform also has its virtues.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
#20
I agree with Galion (at least I think I do.) People choose either a 911 or a Boxster for lots of different reasons besides a miniscule straight-line performance difference. The backseat/storage of a 911 is important to some, the track-ready 2 seater roadster aspect of the Boxster is what others want. It's been a known factor since the Cayman came out that it's been "kept in its place" horsepowerwise, but people still buy them because the handling/utility of that platform also has its virtues.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
Buying any Porsche requires looking at the big picture, the mystique and the "all aroundness." As Galion said you can get any number of cheaper cars that will outpace anything below a Turbo in a straightline.
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Interesting statement concerning this in the latest issue of Automobile magazine. It's actually a "preview" article about the 981 Cayman but I think it's the same core issue.
Article states the obvious, that the Cayman/Boxster horsepower level has purposely been held back to avoid cannabilizing sales from the 911. It goes on to say that's about to change as Porsche's own internal marketing surveys have revealed "there is very little overlap in buyers." Basically for whatever reason, 911 buyers buy 911's, and Cayman/Boxster buyers buy them. Cost, mid versus rear engine, tiny back seats in 911, 2 seater roadster, tradition, etc...are all factors that play into which car a buyer favors. Article states that Porsche intends to put out more versions of the 981 a la 911 variations this time around, don't be surprised to see a track ready version similar to the GT3 in the future, and will let the chips fall where they may.
Article states the obvious, that the Cayman/Boxster horsepower level has purposely been held back to avoid cannabilizing sales from the 911. It goes on to say that's about to change as Porsche's own internal marketing surveys have revealed "there is very little overlap in buyers." Basically for whatever reason, 911 buyers buy 911's, and Cayman/Boxster buyers buy them. Cost, mid versus rear engine, tiny back seats in 911, 2 seater roadster, tradition, etc...are all factors that play into which car a buyer favors. Article states that Porsche intends to put out more versions of the 981 a la 911 variations this time around, don't be surprised to see a track ready version similar to the GT3 in the future, and will let the chips fall where they may.
#24
Having really enjoyed the Boxter S I had for a few years (between 911s) I always looked at it from the other half of the glass. I was pleased to have the shared suspension parts, wheels, transmissions, styling elements exterior and interior parts at a good discount- in a car that was so much fun to drive. It was a bit slower in acceleration and in a straight line, but not enough to matter in rational use. The handling (before the 991) was easier to go fast with safely in the twisties, too. I have no doubt that Porsche people are going to have to get over their old perceptions and prejudices about the diffferences and more into the advantages that each offers for their purposes.
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As an aside, really like Jethro Bovingdon's review - he's back at evo again. The Brits - CAR, evo, TG - do these so much better than the US mags.
#27
They'll be in the $60k's without options, if they stick to the same playbook as 987 (and no performance options will be needed, except maybe Sport Chrono or PCCB, if you like).
#28
Had two Boxster's then bought a 997 Coupe. Now own a 981 Boxster. Each car has its plus and minus but in the end the Boxster is more fun at any price and for me that's why I have a sports car. It's not how fast it is or prestigious or being able to haul two little kids in the back seat. It's the smile it puts on my face everytime I drive it.
#29
Had two Boxster's then bought a 997 Coupe. Now own a 981 Boxster. Each car has its plus and minus but in the end the Boxster is more fun at any price and for me that's why I have a sports car. It's not how fast it is or prestigious or being able to haul two little kids in the back seat. It's the smile it puts on my face everytime I drive it.
In my case I more than likely will be opting for the 981S since I like top down driving, and I'm not willing to pay a $30K premium for a 991 convertible.
#30
Yesterday I did a second test drive of a 991 C and a 981 S. I found both great and surprisingly different in personality given how similar the pieces (essentially the same power to weight, tires, PDK, steering). My personal conclusion was that the 991 is a car that wants the driver to drive it hard. In fact when I had my 996 and took it on the track, it changed personality and what much happier than driving around densely populated NY/CT region. While I felt the 991 wanted me to push it, the 981 S was happier following my lead around winding roads at 40-50 mph. Clearly this comes down to where the car will be used and how. I started this search convinced I would purchase my second 911 and decided yesterday that the Boxster S is the better choice for me now given my desire to enjoy it daily around town and country are reasonable speeds.