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Old 12-11-2012 | 02:02 PM
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Not selling as many as pre-crisis, but not so bad if using post crisis (mid-2008) sales as a baseline.
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Old 12-11-2012 | 02:18 PM
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In Technical Analysis terms this looks an awful lot like a double top to me. Maybe a bit off-topic to a bunch of Porschephiles, but to anyone used to looking at stock or commodities charts, well this one looks a little scary. Scary in terms of projecting future low sales for Porsche, that is. In terms of projecting future discount deals to be had the next few years though it could hardly look better.
Old 12-11-2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck911
In Technical Analysis terms this looks an awful lot like a double top to me. Maybe a bit off-topic to a bunch of Porschephiles, but to anyone used to looking at stock or commodities charts, well this one looks a little scary. Scary in terms of projecting future low sales for Porsche, that is. In terms of projecting future discount deals to be had the next few years though it could hardly look better.
The fallacy with that logic is that 911 buyers don't look at that chart before going to buy, unlike stocks and commodties. They also don't sell based on that chart and their individual sales would not be reflected on that chart anyways.
Old 12-11-2012 | 02:47 PM
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The fallacy with that logic is that 911 buyers don't look at that chart before going to buy, unlike stocks and commodties. They also don't sell based on that chart and their individual sales would not be reflected on that chart anyways.
The factory understands. Weekend production has been cut. On the other hand, certain posters to Rennlist will be predicting shorter, narrower cars based on this data.
Old 12-11-2012 | 02:57 PM
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Lower volumes could be good for residuals though... or maybe that's just wishful thinking..
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The factory understands. Weekend production has been cut. On the other hand, certain posters to Rennlist will be predicting shorter, narrower cars based on this data.
They may start out short and narrow, but they grow once you get them home.
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I fell out of my chair laughing (meant that in a good way). Thank you!

The bigger they come the harder they fall (but I don't believe it).
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Since this is cross posted elsewhere, so will I join in:

I think Porsche has kind of rethought its philosophy in the last few years too. Past president Wendelin Wiedeking was a bit too ambitious, just a few years ago vowing to buy VW. We all know how that worked out. I believe new management feels that the company can still be profitable without over reaching sales goals.
Did anyone here besides me buy a Porsche circa 2006? When I bought my Cayman S late that year my local dealer had almost 30 of them and 15-20 911's. Market was good back then, but not that good. Deep discounts to move inventory were the rule of the day, so ultimate sales numbers probably looked good, but profit level (per unit) not so much.
I would guess PorscheUSA is pretty happy with 991 sales, and even more so with Cayenne and Panamera sales which make up the bulk of the brand. Boxster/Cayman has never sold as many as the 911, but with the new 981 series for those, 2013 should be a good year again.

PS: I do not subsribe to the "sky is falling" theory of US economics. Please leave politics out of this discussion of car company sales.
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Its not that the sky is falling. It only appears that way. The problem is that once you get them home the cars grow so big they literally reach the sky.
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I can't even spell pahlaticks, but I agree with Chuck and Chuck 100 percent. I think my car grew 3.6 inches longer last night. It's "cray-cray." It's so big I've been scraping the inside of my garage walls or something on my 991 or 991S or something. I'm not sure if it is a 991 or 991S, although I dropped over a $100k for it. Better to do that than replace those plastic K-mart chairs on my front lawn. I'm just sayin'.
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The chart actually makes sense. The economy does make a difference with luxury purchases like the 911. You see that in the summer of 08 through Spring of 11. The you get a spike when the 991 came out which is all the early adopters, then a fall off.

There isn't enough data yet to determine where the 991 will settle out given the economy remains somewhat stagnant for a while.

I would expect the 991 to settle in at slightly higher levels than the 997 given that it is more targeted to the traditional luxury GT buyer.
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Originally Posted by holminator
I can't even spell pahlaticks, but I agree with Chuck and Chuck 100 percent. I think my car grew 3.6 inches longer last night. It's "cray-cray." It's so big I've been scraping the inside of my garage walls or something on my 991 or 991S or something. I'm not sure if it is a 991 or 991S, although I dropped over a $100k for it. Better to do that than replace those plastic K-mart chairs on my front lawn. I'm just sayin'.
Between the Fed and the Bundesbank everyone has been predicting inflation. Nobody was expecting that it was the cars themselves that would inflate.
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Originally Posted by chuck911
Between the Fed and the Bundesbank everyone has been predicting inflation. Nobody was expecting that it was the cars themselves that would inflate.
Ja! I heard China is now their second biggest market thanks to a 68.8 percent jump in sales, while the US is still number 1 with a rise of 19.5 percent. However, in the domestic market of Germany, Porsche is still well ahead of the market, mainly because the 991 continues to expand in the driveway so much that it scraps bottom on driveways that are almost flush with the street. Incredible I know, but it's the truth I swear. Who would have "thunk it?" Commies buying Porsches like its going out of style and cars that grow in the driveway like weeds. Crazy world.
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Originally Posted by chuck911
Between the Fed and the Bundesbank everyone has been predicting inflation. Nobody was expecting that it was the cars themselves that would inflate.
Must be out of control change over valves, whatever the hell they are- the factory is trying to get them all replaced.
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This is better than the, uh, you know, the [I]other[I]thread.


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