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Old 09-22-2012 | 11:53 PM
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I currently have a 2012 C63 sedan as daily driver. I also have a couple other 2 seater cars for the weekend activities, but recently I have been wanting to find a way to take my two young boys (6, 3) along with me to share the sports car experience.

As I see it the only current sports car that serves all my purposes (daily driving, sportive, and room for small kids) is the 991. So today I went to test a 991S with PDK. I enjoyed the car, the interior is a significant upgrade to prior models, and the build quality is evident. The drive was great, but I think I have been spoiled by my C63 in that the engine felt good but somewhat anemic in the 991S. Thats an exaggeration on my part but I wonder if I've become spoiled by the additional torque and hp in the C63, it certainly can be felt seat of the pants. I would love to hear comments from others that either have compared these two cars or have an opinion on the matter. No doubt the cars are different (the c63 is a muscle car although no slouch in the handling and driver feedback either).

The rest of the drive was great although I think I would go with the MT; my commute is just a few miles and not much traffic to speak of, and I already have what I think is the supreme DCT in my 458.
Old 09-23-2012 | 12:59 AM
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All of your automotive wants and needs can be addressed by the M5. Drove one today. Amazing performance, ride, and handling. Enjoy the search!
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But all the F10 M5s have been recalled for bad oil pumps.
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But all the F10 M5s have been recalled for bad oil pumps.
Then very soon they'll all be right as rain.
Old 09-23-2012 | 02:38 PM
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The 991 S is a very capable and potent car. The anemic thing is just an initial feeling ( I had it too on test drive) that will go away once you drive it for a while and realize that it is very fierce indeed in sport + mode. I think it can kick C63's *** any day. But compared to your DCT 458, of course it is a step back.

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Old 09-23-2012 | 04:18 PM
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I love the C63,....if I had room for a few cars a C63 would be taking up some space,.....but as you said the 991 and C63 are very different tools,.....one a hammer, the other a scalpel. I also like that it is one of the last NA big engined AMGs out there, no turbos for me please.

First there's no denying that a C63 has gobs more torque and more HP, but in a much heavier package, and yes, initially a 991 will feel a bit soft below 4K rpm compared to the Benz. If you look at all the published timings between each,....they are either a wash or the 991S a tick ahead, so yes it has the speed you just have to go get it.

Second, if the 991 didn't have a few thousand miles on it, it won't even be broken in yet and believe me there's a huge difference in performance once a Porsche engine is broken in a bit. Also it takes a bit of driving to be at one with a Porsche. The magic begins once you meld with it, then you see how special they really are.

If you absolutely need a sports car with a pair of small seats, then yes a 991 is one of the few if not THE only one that fills the bill.

Stick vs PDK,....you can't lose with either. Just pick the one you like the most.
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What you crave is torque, and the 991S will be relatively short in that department. Most people just focus on HP and that won't necessarily provide the acceleration that many people crave. An extreme example was the Honda S2000 which had decent HP at very high rpms but the torque of an economy car. If you crave acceleration in a practical car, you can't go wrong with the M5. A
C63 AMG is no slouch either.
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The problem is that the M5/M6 are ugly, nothing exciting about their design.
The C63 is a great drive but also an old design ready for a full model change.
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M5 makes no sense to me with a c63 already
M6 cab with stick?
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Originally Posted by Rocket_boy
I love the C63,....if I had room for a few cars a C63 would be taking up some space,.....but as you said the 991 and C63 are very different tools,.....one a hammer, the other a scalpel. I also like that it is one of the last NA big engined AMGs out there, no turbos for me please.

First there's no denying that a C63 has gobs more torque and more HP, but in a much heavier package, and yes, initially a 991 will feel a bit soft below 4K rpm compared to the Benz. If you look at all the published timings between each,....they are either a wash or the 991S a tick ahead, so yes it has the speed you just have to go get it.

Second, if the 991 didn't have a few thousand miles on it, it won't even be broken in yet and believe me there's a huge difference in performance once a Porsche engine is broken in a bit. Also it takes a bit of driving to be at one with a Porsche. The magic begins once you meld with it, then you see how special they really are.

If you absolutely need a sports car with a pair of small seats, then yes a 991 is one of the few if not THE only one that fills the bill.

Stick vs PDK,....you can't lose with either. Just pick the one you like the most.
Thanks - the car I drove was a demo vehicle and had 1000 miles on it, I guess there would be some more opening up left in it. The salesman at dealer was really cool and he had me push the car on some deserted back roads so I think I got a reasonable feel for the car. Yes, I did notice the power started to come in about 4000 noticeably. I guess the seat of the pants feel comes from the C63 engine producing a lot of torque down low in the range, if you put your foot to the floor even at 2000 in 3rd you will get a serious shove. I also find the C63 to be a very good value given the 110k+ stickers I am seeing for a well spec 991S ..

I had a .2 GT3 RS up until last year and I enjoyed it tremendously. I am trying to get close to that feeling in a car but share it with my kids .. no M5s or similar
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How about a 997 Turbo (for now) and then a 991 Turbo. Now you will have grunt.

And it you really want grunt, my buddy just picked up a 2013 Shelby 500 with 662 hp. Nice acceleration if you want your eyeballs pushed to the back of your brain.!
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Originally Posted by mjsporsche
How about a 997 Turbo (for now) and then a 991 Turbo. Now you will have grunt.

And it you really want grunt, my buddy just picked up a 2013 Shelby 500 with 662 hp. Nice acceleration if you want your eyeballs pushed to the back of your brain.!
Indeed the 997 turbo could be the value play here .. the shelby is appealing but id on't need THAT much grunt
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audi rs5 is an alternative to the 991 that is worth a test drive.
Old 09-23-2012 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC123
audi rs5 is an alternative to the 991 that is worth a test drive.
But sadly they don't come in MT...

Originally Posted by midcont
The problem is that the M5/M6 are ugly, nothing exciting about their design.
Couldn't agree with you more...
Old 09-24-2012 | 09:15 AM
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yes RS5 has no manual but I still think worth a try before buying a 991. to me an rs5 feels a bit more special than a base 991.


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