sfo

it does with 20" Sport Techno wheels

fester

And 4/4S has 305 rears as standard....

stubenhocker

You must add on the cost of shipping and mounting!

Tire America Discount Tire is a better deal, less hassle, imho.

chuckbdc

Many of the better enthusiast oriented local shops will meet of beat their prices if you let them. Less hassle and better service.

HotLap

The P Zeros recently placed dead last in Car and Driver's tire comparison of 10 Extreme/max Performance Catagory tires. Pros: Supple ride and quiet operation / Cons: poor wet skidpad and braking performance and understeer orineted....with the Michelin Pilot Super Sport taking the #1 spot!

brad@tirerack.com

Overall the Super Sports have been a big favorite on the new cars. I have not ridden on the Pirellis yet, but I have had several owners lately call me to get off their low-miles Pirellis in order to get some ride quality back. I would stay on 19's, but that's just me.....

chuckbdc

I have had no problems with the 20 in Pirellis that cam on my Carrera S over 6500 miles of normal (eg hi fun) street use. They are comfortable, quiet, fine in the rain and quite good in the twisties and under braking. I have not tracked the car (yet) so can't comment on that application.

That said-- I had Michelin Super Sports (non N) on my Boxter S - they were outstanding and an upgrade compared to the OEM PS2s. When the time comes I for sure will have them on the 991.

solomonschris

I agree with Chuck, the improvement over my 997.2 in terms of every dynamic including comfort and noise is just astounding. It may well be that the SS tires have a higher limit, but I drive on public roads and the limits of these tires are waay beyond how I would ever drive. I really like them, but might change my mind with their cost at replacement time.

Zmoney3982

I just bought replacement P Zeros for my 991S. Will have them put on P dealership. They were asking $1000 a tire, got them on tirer rack for $560 each.
I have driven the 991S on the track, outfitted with PZeros and it just does not move. No understeer or braking issues at all.
I will say that the handling in wet conditions does leave something to be desired, but they are performance tires not all seasons, so I adjust my driving accordingly.

HotLap

Well said Solomon, while the C & D staff push these tires to their limit, most of us won't get anywhere near the limits reached during C & D's testing so most won't really notice. Do think that at replacement time I will go with the SS's though, cost is close on both tires and I had a set of 20" Pirelli Scorpions on a new F-150 that I didn't care for very much.

GoTexas

We too purchase the warranty, and received a new tire for a flat caused by a nail. Now, we just need to find a way to get a nail into the other tire, and we'll have a complete set. hahaha just kidding.

fester

I had tire/windshield protection warranty when I bought my bimmer with run flats..every time the tire had a puncture, it got replaced...given that tire price $500 per, I got the warranty cost recovered the first couple of years (yes, I had that many flats..the oem rfts were junk)

simsgw

Well, yes, but I always buy the road-hazard protection from the tire supplier, so there's that risk covered. My insurance company already covers everything else included on those policies except possibly the wheels themselves. I'd have to inquire. Certainly any usual source of damage, like a collision or a 'comprehensive' event, is covered. I've never damaged a wheel on the road so that may not be covered. I'd have to check to see what that special coverage costs. Heaven knows these wheels are expensive enough to be a "listed item" on my homeowners policy. Cindy had listed jewelry that cost less than one of these Carrera Classic 20's from Porsche.

In general, the company carrying your overall risk will provide a better deal on supplemental coverages, so I always decline the dealer package. They aren't a rip-off as far as I can see. Coverage and premiums (the flat cost that is) seem reasonable. It's just silly to create overlapping coverages, so I don't.

Those tires surprised me honestly. I expected them to be far more expensive than the 19's, but they aren't. I just bought tires for my 997 about ten thousand miles ago, and these aren't more than ten percent higher, if that. There is a terrible difference between the P Zero OEM tires and the Michelin Pilot Super Sports however. It looks like $2100 for a set of Pirellis, installed, with road hazard protection added. More like $1500 for MPSS. Same was true of the 19's. The OEM Michelin PS2 tires were roughly fifty percent higher than the new MPSS. And the MPSS is a wonderful tire both on public roads and the track events.

I know what I'm going to install as soon as the OEM Pirellis wear out.

Gary

simsgw

They are.

simsgw

That's okay, I don't understand what he said either. And I didn't fail math.

Gary