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Old 08-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon70
Porsche website has the following performance data:
991 C2S 0-60: 4.3
991 C4S 0-60: 4.0
Surely the wrong way round?
Old 08-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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Nice pictures up. I'd like to see the width - not posted - compared with the 2wd models. I'd also like to see the price.
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Nice pictures up. I'd like to see the width - not posted - compared with the 2wd models. I'd also like to see the price.
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911...turesandspecs/

Width:
C4 / C4S = 1852mm
C2 / C2S = 1808mm

C4S weighs 1,465Kg compared to 1,415Kg of the C2S.

Price and other specs on the link provided.
Old 08-27-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon70
Porsche website has the following performance data:
991 C2S 0-60: 4.3
991 C4S 0-60: 4.0
Originally Posted by SiNi
Surely the wrong way round?
I just checked. The numbers Jon70 posted are correct, at least per the Porsche web site. Apparently AWD really hooks up. Using launch control, the difference shrinks to C2S 3.9sec / C4S 3.8sec. I would think in situations where traction off the line isn't the big factor, the C2S would pull the C4S due to it's lighter weight and slightly better aero.
Old 08-27-2012, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
I just checked. The numbers Jon70 posted are correct, at least per the Porsche web site. Apparently AWD really hooks up. Using launch control, the difference shrinks to C2S 3.9sec / C4S 3.8sec. I would think in situations where traction off the line isn't the big factor, the C2S would pull the C4S due to it's lighter weight and slightly better aero.
The Porsche (UK) website quotes 4.3s for both cars with PDK.

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Old 08-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sidicks
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911...turesandspecs/

Width:
C4 / C4S = 1852mm
C2 / C2S = 1808mm

C4S weighs 1,465Kg compared to 1,415Kg of the C2S.

Price and other specs on the link provided.
The link is going back to the 997 C4S - looks like Porsche are making frther changes to their website...!!
Old 08-27-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sidicks
The Porsche (UK) website quotes 4.3s for both cars with PDK.

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Everyone knows the US site has the straight scoop! Seems like they are still mucking around with their web sites and will hopefully get their act together with accurate data from all sources eventually.
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given the WB, i wonder the tire widths, 315? 325? The latter would be awesome!
Old 08-27-2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
given the WB, i wonder the tire widths, 315? 325? The latter would be awesome!
Just as with the 997, the rears are 305 for the C4S compared with 295 for the C2S.
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Originally Posted by sidicks
Just as with the 997, the rears are 305 for the C4S compared with 295 for the C2S.
thats odds ive seen several 991s on dealer lot w/ 305s. Given that the WB is approx 48mm wider (24mm/side) P should fit these w/ 325s. What a crock of $hit. Oh wait, P will likely offer spacers w/ the 305s and pocket $500. Brilliant!
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Originally Posted by kosmo
thats odds ive seen several 991s on dealer lot w/ 305s.
I think one of the optional wheel choices for the C2S came with 305s...
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Originally Posted by sidicks
I think one of the optional wheel choices for the C2S came with 305s...
Originally Posted by sidicks
I think one of the optional wheel choices for the C2S came with 305s...
Yes, the Carrera Sports like I have on my 997.2 came with 305's. I'm pretty sure all GTS models also came with 305's at the rear. But according to the configurator, none of the 991 2wd models come with 305's yet, for any of the wheel choices, AFAI can see.
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I have Sport Tech wheels that come from the factory with 305s because the wheels are 1/2" wider than the other 991 wheels.
Old 08-27-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CDinSing
I have Sport Tech wheels that come from the factory with 305s because the wheels are 1/2" wider than the other 991 wheels.
Apparently just like with the Sport Classics. I couldn't find that info on the web site. Thanks for clarifying....
Old 08-27-2012, 06:20 PM
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this is news? the 4 has always been heavier, more expensive and wider..


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