991 GT3 and 991 TURBO CAB spy shots with very little camouflage
05-23-2012, 12:33 PM
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That's useful at least for you -- when we know the facts, you'll know if your dealer is willing to talk rubbish or if he got lucky on a wild guess. You'll never know if he's speaking from known facts. If your dealer could think through single step logic, he (she) would stop speaking nonsense.
I imagine Porsche is very close to determing the final production spec for 2013 model year, but we know for the last 20+ years, Porsche AG is not in the habit of communicating forward information to Porsche Cars North America ... it's as if the two organizations just don't work well together.
I imagine Porsche is very close to determing the final production spec for 2013 model year, but we know for the last 20+ years, Porsche AG is not in the habit of communicating forward information to Porsche Cars North America ... it's as if the two organizations just don't work well together.
05-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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That's useful at least for you -- when we know the facts, you'll know if your dealer is willing to talk rubbish or if he got lucky on a wild guess. You'll never know if he's speaking from known facts. If your dealer could think through single step logic, he (she) would stop speaking nonsense.
I imagine Porsche is very close to determing the final production spec for 2013 model year, but we know for the last 20+ years, Porsche AG is not in the habit of communicating forward information to Porsche Cars North America ... it's as if the two organizations just don't work well together.
I imagine Porsche is very close to determing the final production spec for 2013 model year, but we know for the last 20+ years, Porsche AG is not in the habit of communicating forward information to Porsche Cars North America ... it's as if the two organizations just don't work well together.
I highly doubt that some franchise dealer has definite information in regards to this matter.
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
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That is not a 991S, and I think we all know it. They don't mule S's with that type of front fascia. That is a GT3 without a doubt, the stance and centerlocks say it as well. I highly doubt CL will be an option for an S car nor would they put it on there to parade around the streets in.
I think there could be a method to the wing, maybe to appeal to a broader audience, which Porsche has done with every successive model, they went with a more subdued wing and now the more functional wings will be part of an aerokit for the GT3 (I'm sure that will turn some stomachs).
But that particular wing definitely looks hydraulic in nature, and there is no way in it's current position that it could really produce much DF. That is the part that could still be camo'd or we are dealing with a moving wing, has to be one or the other (that or they will make you buy an RS for real DF). However this car does little to separate itself from the 991S if you don't pay close attention, so I think some changes are inevitable.
Let's just hope it's not just a bunch of bright colors and stickers.
I think there could be a method to the wing, maybe to appeal to a broader audience, which Porsche has done with every successive model, they went with a more subdued wing and now the more functional wings will be part of an aerokit for the GT3 (I'm sure that will turn some stomachs).
But that particular wing definitely looks hydraulic in nature, and there is no way in it's current position that it could really produce much DF. That is the part that could still be camo'd or we are dealing with a moving wing, has to be one or the other (that or they will make you buy an RS for real DF). However this car does little to separate itself from the 991S if you don't pay close attention, so I think some changes are inevitable.
Let's just hope it's not just a bunch of bright colors and stickers.
05-23-2012, 05:50 PM
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That is not a 991S, and I think we all know it. They don't mule S's with that type of front fascia. That is a GT3 without a doubt, the stance and centerlocks say it as well. I highly doubt CL will be an option for an S car nor would they put it on there to parade around the streets in.
I think there could be a method to the wing, maybe to appeal to a broader audience, which Porsche has done with every successive model, they went with a more subdued wing and now the more functional wings will be part of an aerokit for the GT3 (I'm sure that will turn some stomachs).
But that particular wing definitely looks hydraulic in nature, and there is no way in it's current position that it could really produce much DF. That is the part that could still be camo'd or we are dealing with a moving wing, has to be one or the other (that or they will make you buy an RS for real DF). However this car does little to separate itself from the 991S if you don't pay close attention, so I think some changes are inevitable.
Let's just hope it's not just a bunch of bright colors and stickers.
I think there could be a method to the wing, maybe to appeal to a broader audience, which Porsche has done with every successive model, they went with a more subdued wing and now the more functional wings will be part of an aerokit for the GT3 (I'm sure that will turn some stomachs).
But that particular wing definitely looks hydraulic in nature, and there is no way in it's current position that it could really produce much DF. That is the part that could still be camo'd or we are dealing with a moving wing, has to be one or the other (that or they will make you buy an RS for real DF). However this car does little to separate itself from the 991S if you don't pay close attention, so I think some changes are inevitable.
Let's just hope it's not just a bunch of bright colors and stickers.
I think the central exhaust outlet is a giveaway.
Did any other factory car have the GT3/RS air vent in front of the frunk as part of the bumper cover design and inverted radiator airflow ducting?
The GTS has CL's as an option, as does the Turbo, so that's nothing, though I look forward to Porsche saying "WHAT?!" when we all order with five slugs, assuming it's an option on the GT3 wheel carrier.
I think a moving wing is very likely -- drag = mpg = government overlords.
One could read between the lines and assume those Carrera GT buckets are a telltale of a GT3 introduction. The half cage could be for safety during R&D, as we saw on the turbo cab mule which appeared to have a fake, non-functioning roof and apparently didn't have deployable roll-over protection (getting back to the likely "policy" change of safety for test drivers, especially if they're hot-shoeing around Nordschleife.)
If they fix the steering and keep the weight down, I'll be interested once the RS is out. That's a long time between drinks. If they shoehorn 4.0 pistons into this first GT3, that's a nail in the coffin of the 4.0 RS (not in my humble opinion, but I'm sure in the "old vs new" consumer wanting cachet and "first kid on the block" recognition for his facebook page ... drivers and collectors will be interested in the 4.0 RS forever.)
05-23-2012, 06:12 PM
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Those two items right there made me immediately think GT3. I could have ignored the title and the same light would come on. The seats and cage were an indication, but not quite as definitive.
05-24-2012, 11:47 AM
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05-24-2012, 12:01 PM
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05-25-2012, 12:30 AM
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Then I see something like this and then I understand why they can get away with it.
05-25-2012, 12:39 AM
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It makes you wonder how clueless your average buyer is. I've NEVER been at a dealership where the, salesman, service guy, parts dealer made me feel totally confident in their knowledge/expertise.
Then I see something like this and then I understand why they can get away with it.
Then I see something like this and then I understand why they can get away with it.
05-25-2012, 12:43 AM
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05-25-2012, 11:01 AM
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05-25-2012, 01:49 PM
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