zanwar

It's not even close to as stylish as a Maserati...

TT Surgeon

Mj is no newb at the track, he is tight w the Pds guys and I value his opinion.
I imagine Hurley would say the same thing off the record.
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Betternotbigger

Great use of cedilla and circumflex.

Tacet-Conundrum

On paper the 991 may, might - ain't looked(!), be bigger than the 997. But to me the new interior feels like it is more "wrapped" around the driver. That in itself induces a sense of claustrophobia in some of us "slightly touched" and "mad" individuals. I too agree the new interior seemed tighter something only slightly approaching the last series Vipers. Which were absurdly tight given the dimensions of how large the the car is. Being 6'5" I never felt comfortable sitting in the Viper's seat.

Nizer

Reserving judgement until 991 GT3 arrives.

MJones

The best part was the ability to drive the 997 against the 991, something pretty rare.

Owners of the 991 please chime in...does your knee rub against the speaker grill while under hard cornering? Or am I nuts?
In the 997 I have the stretch to reach the door panel.

Yes I know the writing is on the wall, It's here, but I can comment and I don't have to buy, at least right now.

TommyV44

Sorry

utkinpol

i think it just should be understood now that porsche finally enforced a clear separation between street and gt3 cars.
i think everyone who drove 991S on a street says it is a great street car. it is simply optimized for that and for that alone, basta.

anyone who will want a car for track fun will need to buy gt3 or cup. if we will see when 991 gt3 will come out that it is not even possible to move gt3 parts into 991S it will finilize this separation. not to say i just do not understand with amount of 991 electronics how would that car behave if you start swapping out LCAs, changing camber, suspension arms, putting on 335 wide tires in rear, etc.

it is just a good street car now designed to run as it is, from a factory.

utkinpol

i also think it would be just great to get that new hydraulic 'sway bar' 991 system for retrofit into 997 car. it would be awesome. but probably not going to happen any time soon.

Larry Cable

Ive chewed out my knee bracing against the door of a 997 (C2S and T4S) everytime I have driven one at the ring... the speaker grille should be renamed "knee grater" ...

carcommander

Change is constant and most people do not like change. I have taken the Porsche course. Performance in that course has little to do with real world driveability. Unless that's what you do with the car.

Larry Cable

its all subjective, there are no winners or losers, only opinions ... MJones is entitled to his; others may (hopefully, politely) differ, I for one, knowing MJ, value his POV here...

I think its fair to evaluate the 991S alongside a number of other Porsche rides at the track, and if it comes up lacking in some sense, it comes up lacking, that is independent of any other measure of the car (on road, drivability etc) ...

I still think the 996.2 (RS) is the most rewarding GT3 if you have the *****/skill to drive it "sympathetically" (actually the 996.1 was that too, simply because it was streets ahead of anything else when it came out), but I dont think the 7.1 or 7.2 ruined the GT3 brand ... I dont have high hopes for the 991 ... this is just my opinion, you dont have to agree with me ... nor do you have to convince me I am wrong, or that I am an idiot either... thanks!

ELUSIVE

This just in.
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unclejosh

I appreciate your unvarnished report.

FWIW, it is consistent with a friends comments, who also recently completed the same course.

Somehow my 997.2 GTS seems to grind out the commute and perform well enough at the track. It responds well to my smooth inputs, and also let's me know when I have made an error. Therin lies the fun methinks.


Have Fun Drivin

UJ

Larry Cable

I think its a commonly held belief that the 7 GTS is the best of the 7 Carerra's ... its certainly mine!