Electric parking brake
08-12-2012, 07:53 PM
#61
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The electric parking brake takes away a measure of safety when training a 15 year-new driver old how to drive. I taught my older children how to drive in Mazdaspeed3 and BMW manual cars with a handbrake I could grab if needed. I will have more difficulty with my soon to be 15 year old daughter in my 991s as it will be impossible to reach across her and push the electric parking brake if necessary.
08-12-2012, 09:29 PM
#62
Race Director
The electric parking brake takes away a measure of safety when training a 15 year-new driver old how to drive. I taught my older children how to drive in Mazdaspeed3 and BMW manual cars with a handbrake I could grab if needed. I will have more difficulty with my soon to be 15 year old daughter in my 991s as it will be impossible to reach across her and push the electric parking brake if necessary.
08-13-2012, 08:53 AM
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08-13-2012, 09:22 AM
#64
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The electric parking brake takes away a measure of safety when training a 15 year-new driver old how to drive. I taught my older children how to drive in Mazdaspeed3 and BMW manual cars with a handbrake I could grab if needed. I will have more difficulty with my soon to be 15 year old daughter in my 991s as it will be impossible to reach across her and push the electric parking brake if necessary.
08-13-2012, 04:44 PM
#65
Rennlist Member
I was pushing my Spyder with dead battery around the garage the other day to get it out of the way. Would have proven much more difficult with an electronic e-brake.
08-18-2012, 06:46 PM
#67
Race Director
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
#69
Anyway, with the pedal, you're using your left leg quads for something that should be applied with the feel and precision of your hand and arm ... people have a way of cranking the parking brake on as if to anchor a supertanker after spilling oil in Alaska.
I think it's one of those "signs" of an attentive driver to park the car out of gear and raise the parking brake with a thumb on the button to spare the mechanism while judging the lie of the land to deftly apply just enough pressure to hold the car reliably as it rests on the parking brake, not on the gear teeth of 1st gear, which has the unwelcome long term side effect of metal to metal as the oil is squeezed out of the way and it leaves the syncro compressed for the given gear for half the life of the car -- even reverse is usually just an idler on 1st, so that's not saving the car, plus it transfers load all the way to the working bearing surfaces of the engine. It's just not the intended workload of any of these parts.
08-19-2012, 01:05 PM
#70
Race Director
The Benz pedal parking brake is of the "ratchet with release lever" design and it's a royal pain. The Prius has the ratchet-and-release design which means you can push once to park or immediately push a second time to have a continuously variable control over the parking brake (excellent for all kinds of activities including sending the stability software into fits of apoplexy as the Prius pirouettes around the front wheels ... or so I would imagine ... : )
Anyway, with the pedal, you're using your left leg quads for something that should be applied with the feel and precision of your hand and arm ... people have a way of cranking the parking brake on as if to anchor a supertanker after spilling oil in Alaska.
I think it's one of those "signs" of an attentive driver to park the car out of gear and raise the parking brake with a thumb on the button to spare the mechanism while judging the lie of the land to deftly apply just enough pressure to hold the car reliably as it rests on the parking brake, not on the gear teeth of 1st gear, which has the unwelcome long term side effect of metal to metal as the oil is squeezed out of the way and it leaves the syncro compressed for the given gear for half the life of the car -- even reverse is usually just an idler on 1st, so that's not saving the car, plus it transfers load all the way to the working bearing surfaces of the engine. It's just not the intended workload of any of these parts.
Anyway, with the pedal, you're using your left leg quads for something that should be applied with the feel and precision of your hand and arm ... people have a way of cranking the parking brake on as if to anchor a supertanker after spilling oil in Alaska.
I think it's one of those "signs" of an attentive driver to park the car out of gear and raise the parking brake with a thumb on the button to spare the mechanism while judging the lie of the land to deftly apply just enough pressure to hold the car reliably as it rests on the parking brake, not on the gear teeth of 1st gear, which has the unwelcome long term side effect of metal to metal as the oil is squeezed out of the way and it leaves the syncro compressed for the given gear for half the life of the car -- even reverse is usually just an idler on 1st, so that's not saving the car, plus it transfers load all the way to the working bearing surfaces of the engine. It's just not the intended workload of any of these parts.
08-14-2013, 09:10 PM
#71
Porcedes for all? Handbrake, steering, what do we lose next?
Not that long ago, most Mercedes cars were luxury cruisers, most Porsches were good sports all-rounders and if you wanted both you parked them next to each other and had two great cars. Fuel economy regulations and the like are now killing this distinction. I fear the eurocrat/CAFE crowd won't be happy until we can only buy one model of car, with just our choice of body panels and badge.
Even in my 7 series BMW, I hate that it is missing a proper handbrake but deleting it from a Porsche makes it less of a Porsche. Maybe they plan on bringing it back as a $$$ option for 'enthusiast drivers' but to my mind every Porsche should be enthusiast friendly. Those who know how to use it on the move would likely feel the same.
