sjfehr

$2k glorified oil changes seem to be par for the course for new Porsches these days and an extra $150-300 of labor to get to the filter isn't going to make much difference, but I have to wonder how it's going to hurt the resale value, as the used market is driven in no small part by shadetree mechanics and those of more moderate budgets who can't afford those sorts of maint costs. That's depressed prices in the past and seems like it's just going to get worse and worse as these cars get designed with "features" like non-user-resettable service lights that require expensive dealer maintenance. Might be great at getting people back wandering around the dealership looking at new cars while they wait, but again, seems like it's going to depress resale prices a bit.

kosmo

its nice to see my old thread is alive and well!
Since i posted this i've been enlightened on how to change the oil filter by simply removing the fans. so thats not a bad as i thought. The air filter on the other hand is still a PITA. I realize that the book says to replace every 30k, but i had to replace mine (997) at 15k.
I as DIYer of simple stuff I am disappointed however I cant say it really any better elsewhere w/ any other make.

Hey Quadcammer, remember the older V8 Ferraris (355?) that required an engine pull to replace the belts?!!! Now thats what I call a PITA!!!

Quadcammer

yup the 348 and 355, as well as the testarossa, 512bbi etc all needed the motor pulled for the regular service.

Ease of serviceability was not the order of the day for 90s ferraris.

I think once everybody becomes more familiar with the car and the processes, it will turn out that its not so bad.

skinzy

I saw a video of the air filter replacement a month ago. Will try to find. It was posted on this site or 6peed. The removal of the bumper seemed fairly simple and took about 15 minutes. The mechanic first removed the two rear wheels and pulled two bolts which were located behind the wheels. After that the bumper came right off exposing the entire engine! Actually this made other work that might need to be done look quite simple. Lots of access....may be a good thing?

skinzy

this is it!

parkerfe

I was only going by what Sharkwerks claims in performance increases on it's cross pipes, as well as what AWE Tuning claim in performance increases with it's S FLO high performance air filters. Both have been verified with Dyno testing- you are welcome to view the graphs on each companies website. No, I wasn't there to watch the actual testing... But both companies are very highly regarded in Porsche aftermarket tuning-land. I have no reason not to trust the numbers.

I very seriously doubt the cotton air filters on my car are going to damage it in any way. Hilarious! I appreciate your concern, though.[/QUOTE]

I too doubt a 25hp gain by filter exhaust changes without a remap. And, an oiled cotton filter like those from K&N can in fact destroy the MAP sensor. I had the remove the K&N in my former e39 M5 as it kept causing check-engine warnings and ending up causing the need to replace the MAP sensor.

clutchplate

The new 458 F cars come with seven years free maintenance. Be nice if Porsche followed this example.

chuckbdc

What a bargain.

clutchplate

Yeah it's still to not going to be cheap but it's always been the cost of maintenance, not the car that's kept me fom buying one.

kosmo

if they did they would recommend 20k oil change intervals!

solomonschris

I'll sell you my C2S Cab with 8 yrs. of scheduled maint. For 295,000.....a huge savings over ther Ferrari.

Rainier_991

Mine comes with "free" three year maintenance with a further two years optional on inspection of the car after the three year period expires.
New orders here come with 5 years free maintenance - but at an extra $6000 up front cost to the car. You can however still opt for the three year plan and save the $6000.

I believe this is somewhat similar to Ferrari. The 7 year "free" maintenance is anything but free. You simply pay for it up front as part of the purchase price of the car that has been suitably inflated.

Rainier

clutchplate

Don't take this the wrong way but your C2S isn't exactly a Ferrari 458.

Quadcammer

well that joke seemed to have flown over your head there.

goatboy

Woops. Sorry for the re-post. I was too lazy to thumb through five pages.