Reversing The PDK Stick
#18
Ever picked up a relative from the airport and watched them try to get into the drivers side (yes my life is that boring)? I do miss resting my right elbow on the open window and cupping the shifter with my left hand. Went to Colorado for the first time last summer. They actually have roundabouts there! Must still be a commonwealth. Cheers.
#20
I think the last statement makes for a good story, told after the first manufacturer decided on that pattern for whatever easy mechanical implementation reason.
I see no inertial force large enough, not even on a Le Mans racer, that will force one's arm in any particular direction, even at max acceleration.
The PAG/VAG standard can easily be argued for - move forward to shift up (progress forward), pull backwards to reduce (slow down). Makes sense, doesn't it?
I see no inertial force large enough, not even on a Le Mans racer, that will force one's arm in any particular direction, even at max acceleration.
The PAG/VAG standard can easily be argued for - move forward to shift up (progress forward), pull backwards to reduce (slow down). Makes sense, doesn't it?
#21
to be honest it's a moot point for me as if I had (have) paddle shifters I would use them almost exclusively rather than the center stick but I completely agree with previous poster Montoya that having the downshift in the up position and upshift in the down positions makes more sense and is more intuitive!
If I remember correctly, Indy cars had sequential automatic shifters in aforementioned positions. But F1 (started with Ferrari) had the paddle shifters so the drivers can shifter faster amd keep both hands on the wheel for better driver safety and control... sans the incredible flying qualifying lap of the Aryton's Famous Monaco drive with one hand steering and the other shifting!
If I remember correctly, Indy cars had sequential automatic shifters in aforementioned positions. But F1 (started with Ferrari) had the paddle shifters so the drivers can shifter faster amd keep both hands on the wheel for better driver safety and control... sans the incredible flying qualifying lap of the Aryton's Famous Monaco drive with one hand steering and the other shifting!
#23
When you get into the driver's seat, take a moment to visualize the PDK shifter as a 2nd <->3rd gear shift. Works for me in cars with push to change up. In BMWs, you have to visualize it as a 3rd <-> 4th gear shift. The thing I've never been able to do is accommodate to the PDK push/pull buttons. I'm always pulling the right hand button at redline.
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#28
It does appear that dual-clutch manuals are here to stay - and eventually replace both the conventional automatic and conventional manual in most cars. I do wish manufacturers would come up with a universal configuration. At one point last year I had three different cars with three different +/- manual selector patterns. Annoying.
I agree, all manufacturers should install one of these. The original.
If you gonna do it, do it right..
#29
For the life of me I can't figure out why manufacturers do this on all their manual overrides for their automatic transmissions. On the PDK stick you push forward to upshift and back to downshift. This is simply against the laws of physics which is why it's done the opposite way in every racecar.
I got in the 991, loved the pdk and hated that the shifting is BACKWARDS..
I totally hate it too.. almost makes getting a car with pdk a non starter because its such a huge blunder...
no idea how they could get this wrong.
someone at porsche needs to be slapped
#30
Maybe it's just me, but when I watched Champion's video above, I couldn't help but notice a delay between the time the driver shifts the car using the paddles, and the actual upshift.
I have paddles in my '10 Carrera, and when I knock it over into 'manual shift' mode, it shifts 'now!' when I pull a paddle (either up or downshift) - no delay.
Curious... hmmmm....
I have paddles in my '10 Carrera, and when I knock it over into 'manual shift' mode, it shifts 'now!' when I pull a paddle (either up or downshift) - no delay.
Curious... hmmmm....