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Old 01-28-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
But what's happened to the white dials in the Carrera S? Anybody know?
I can only speak for the European spec, but over here it's:

991 Carrera: Black dials
991 Carrera S: White rev counter, the other dials black

The same goes for the new Boxster (just ordered a new 981 Boxster S )
Old 01-28-2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelderek
I can only speak for the European spec, but over here it's:

991 Carrera: Black dials
991 Carrera S: White rev counter, the other dials black

The same goes for the new Boxster (just ordered a new 981 Boxster S )


the rev counter is "silver" and can be done in black on "S" for no charge.


my qualm: the silver gauge shows the cutouts for the lights underneath (turn signal, traction control, check engine, etc..) which i find annoying.. the black does not show the cutouts.
Old 01-29-2012, 09:24 PM
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Kinda like a gussied up Buick inside.............cute little automatic transmission too. Yep, 997 will be my last Porsche.

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Old 01-29-2012, 09:51 PM
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who would put a blue in this car..... was it a mistake,,,
Old 01-29-2012, 09:52 PM
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Saw the launch car in white with tan interior. Sat in the car and my impression was that the car seemed huge - although, I admit, it could have been exaggerated by the light color. The incline and size of the console is a clear message from Porsche that the standard now is PDK. Manual transmissions are now the exception rather than the rule. The build quality is exceptional, of course, but it is so clear that this is not the sports car it used to be. This is a true GT - comfortable, spacious, and easy to drive. Most of the gentlemen I saw test driving the car drove with the seat back and their arms extended.

I know what they say - that this is a vastly different car than its predecessor and that it is a vastly improved sports car. But the looks, the feel of that electronic steering system and that damn PDK just makes it look and feel like a fast Lexus to me. Fast, but no character.

I came looking to buy, I came away happy to keep what I had. Yes, its faster. And bigger. And lower. And just plain better. But it ain't no sports car. And I could never have as much fun with it as I do when I row through the gears on my old 997. And, yea, I know that everything I said here (with the exception of the PDK) was said when the 996 was introduced. But I stand by it nonetheless.
Old 01-30-2012, 11:01 AM
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Umm, just order a manual?
Old 01-30-2012, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by texas911
Umm, just order a manual?
Umm, take a look at the console. When I sat in the car it seemed very poorly designed for a stick shift. But that's me - your height and weight may make it a different experience. And, if you read my post, it wasn't just the PDK.....
Old 01-30-2012, 11:45 AM
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So you've driven a manual 991?
Old 01-30-2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by texas911
So you've driven a manual 991?
Ya' gotta read the posts, friend. You'll have the answer to your question there.
Old 01-30-2012, 11:55 AM
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Every time a new 911 comes along previous gen owners hate! Human nature is so freaking predictable. People tell themselves what they want to hear. It's always the same; "it's no longer a true sports car, it's a GT!"

Newsflash: to the guy in the Lotus Elise/Exige, these are all big cushy GT cars.
Old 01-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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I was implying that since you've never driven a manual 991, why the rush to judgment? Because you sat in a 991? Wait to drive one at least before you complain about it. And the absurd Lexus comment, which model is the 991 compatible to? Please enlighten us.
Old 01-30-2012, 01:43 PM
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I gave my impressions. If you don't like them, fine. If you want an argument, I'm simply not interested.
Old 01-30-2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnslngr
But it ain't no sports car.
C'mon man, you cannot be serious. The executives and lead designers and engineers at Porsche, who lets assume understand sports cars better than you , spend countless tens of millions in R&D to bring a new 911 to market, and, according to you, they failed in the most fundamental way imaginable, namely in making the new 911 a sports car.

I'm glad you like your 997.
Old 01-30-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hippocampus
C'mon man, you cannot be serious. The executives and lead designers and engineers at Porsche, who lets assume understand sports cars better than you , spend countless tens of millions in R&D to bring a new 911 to market, and, according to you, they failed in the most fundamental way imaginable, namely in making the new 911 a sports car.

I'm glad you like your 997.
I simply don't think they wanted to make the 991 a sports car. All of those executives and lead designers and engineers (who most assuredly DO understand sports cars better than I) spent "countless tens of millions" in R&D and I do not think their object was to bring a true sports car to the market. I think they wanted, as they have since the 996, to bring a sport GT to the market. The 991 is a miracle of modern engineering - it corners better, it drives more precisely and it is simply a better car than anything they've ever made before. But it is bigger than I like, it seems too luxurious to these old eyes, and it is not as fun as a real sports car on the public highways.

Again, this is my opinion. It is how I feel. As such, it is not a matter that anyone should debate - you are entitled to your opinion, too.

As for my 997..... well, you're right. I love it. I love a lot of my cars. I hope you love yours.
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Originally Posted by Rushman71
Can't stand that blue interior. My first car, a '76 Datsun had a blue vinyl interior that exact color. It looked something like this:

Originally Posted by WCE


Launch 991 available for sale at a substantial discount soon!


+1

Nothing says "CHEEZY" like a blue interior!

Looks like it came out of some old Buick.


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