I dont think his post was laughable or uninformed - he even said that the .1 or .2 GT3's were better track cars than Carrera's of any ilk. No one would deny that. He is simply buying a car that is fun for him on the street or on the track and that happens to be a 991. Most 911's can handle pretty good track duty. GT3's obviously better. But a 991 will last more than a lap - perhaps even so far as two.

 

Okay, maybe 2, let's go 3, geeezz.

After re-reading his post, you're right,. I read it wrong, my bad!!! I thought he said that he doubts the gt3 is superior to the 991 at the track.

Sorry, sorry, and sorry.

 

Sooo much emotion here... I'll let you know how it runs after break-in March 24/25 @Sebring. btw, I love Porsche GT cars...

 

Salj- if my car is delivered by 3/24 I'll meet you there. I ordered a Stick car which will be built the first week of March so the dealer can't set a delivery date yet. Ordered in SWFL as well, maybe from the same place, enjoy your car.

 

Please note that points 1 and 2 were prefaced by "In my opinion", which is exactly why I will never own either the Chevy or the Nissan. I'm sure plenty of people love those cars, I'm just not one of them. I'm planning to order a lightly optioned 991S Cab at a cost of around $117,000. For me, spending that kind of money on a Porsche makes way more sense than spending a tad less on a Chevy or a Nissan. I'll just make sure I don't get into a drag race with either of them. That way I won't have to worry about any "pistol-whippings".

 

No harm no foul, All's good

 

Hey Clembo, good deal. I ended up ordering from Suncoast. Mar 24/25 is with Chin @Sebring.

 

Salj - Ft Myers. My car probably will not be in by then, but one never knows.

 

+1

0-60 times largely a product of LC w/PDK.

The electric nannies are off the charts on the test car. The only vehicle w/ more electric nannies was the space shuttle.

Read between the lines. It's a great performer w/ less driver needed. It's big, less "intimate" (read less like a sports car) and has left behind or damn near eliminated the characteristics that defined the 911 since day 1.

Porsche is targeting a new market ala' Jag, Aston, GTR..performance 2+2s.

Bad?no. Depends on what you want. It's a clear evolution.

I'd be wlling to bet 0-60 times are real close for 6spd 991 and 997s. I bet the Ring times are close too. I don't buy their 14sec claimed difference apples to apples.

If a well optioned 991 is now $130k can't wait to see what the GT3 will go for. Sheesh!

 

What's with all the 991 hate? Aren't we all 911 friends here? While I am amused by how C&D came to their conclusion, I'm never the less glad to see the Porsche 911 proclaimed the best. It's been a while. No doubt in a few years or less it will be leap frogged by something else.

 

This whole debate is moot unless you regularly track your car and my sense is that this is not the demographic of the 991 forum.

Both are amazing cars but if you are on public roads, not the track, why would anyone honestly care about this minutia? My 993 is 0-60 in 5.6 sec. and it's an absolute blast.

 

This is always the case every time a new 911 comes along. It's just human nature. People don't like change and they get very emotionally attached to what they have so they take any threat to their own supremacy personally. I'm just glad they make all these wonderful cars so we can argue about these things.

 

I've had a 2006 Cayman S for the last six years and even though it's substantially slower than many of the performance cars on the market, I have never felt a sense of inadequacy. In fact, every time I hit the gas from a red light I notice that everyone one else is way behind me within a few seconds.

I recently ordered a 991 after looking very closely at the competition. For a daily driver, nothing can touch the 991 in its class. It's extremely fast, has an unbelievably sophisticated suspension and looks really, really good. The only downside is the cost. I briefly considered a GTR but it's a very capable, gas guzzling beast that weighs too much and isn't a good daily driver.

Am I afraid of getting the car in its first model year? No. My 2006 Cayman S was a first model year car. It has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

 

I agree with your POV on this. The issue of first year bugs is overblown IMO, certainly when it comes to a car that's undergone evolutionary changes like the 911 as opposed to a completely new and untested model. My '99 996 and current '09 997.2 were first year cars after major changes and there were/have been no real problems with either, despite warnings at the time. If there are problems, that's what warranties are for.

Besides, all of the 991's major mechanical components, with upgrades, are carryovers from the 997.2. There's nothing off-the-charts new there. Even the new 7 speed manual is just a deriviative of the proven PDK. A stretched wheelbase, new body panels and interior bits, PDCC (proven on the Cayenne and Panamera), even the electro-mechanical steering, are not likely to cause reliability headaches.

There may be other reasons why someone doesn't want a first year 991, but concern over reliability shouldn't be one of them.

 

German horses seem to be bigger, especially Porsche's.