991 GT3?
#17
I talked to my dealer today about the C4S. He shows new models out through October, and the C4 isn't shown. I didn't ask about the GT3, but my guess is that we'll get the C4 before the GT3. That suggests GT3 in calendar 2013, perhaps as a 2014 MY.
It also helps to recognize that the 991 3.4 doesn't arrive until late spring (May I think). And Porsche also has to get the new Boxster and Cayman into production. That's a full year of launches (and since their are typically about 20 911 variants, we should see 4 per year, and we already have 4 announced for 2012). All signs point to GT3 coming after 2012.
It also helps to recognize that the 991 3.4 doesn't arrive until late spring (May I think). And Porsche also has to get the new Boxster and Cayman into production. That's a full year of launches (and since their are typically about 20 911 variants, we should see 4 per year, and we already have 4 announced for 2012). All signs point to GT3 coming after 2012.
#19
I have been pushing my guy at the local dealer about the gt productions. I am pondering to order the 991S or wait for a GT3 RS. If the GT cars are 2014 deliveries I will probably order a 991S. According to his info - all 997 platforms (except the base, S, base cab, S cab and the GT cars) are available through October of 2012.
So based on this, Porsche will probably release the 991 platforms in the usual order along with the cabs: 4, 4S, targa, targa 4, GTS, GTS 4, Turbo, Turbo S and the GT cars. Porsche won't make both platforms available at the same time, so the replacement 991s will not come out until the same 997 platform car stops.
The local dealer strongly believes that any of the GT cars will probably be at least 2014.
So based on this, Porsche will probably release the 991 platforms in the usual order along with the cabs: 4, 4S, targa, targa 4, GTS, GTS 4, Turbo, Turbo S and the GT cars. Porsche won't make both platforms available at the same time, so the replacement 991s will not come out until the same 997 platform car stops.
The local dealer strongly believes that any of the GT cars will probably be at least 2014.
#21
Since the GTS has 8 more hp than the 991, and hp and torque are formulaicly related, we can deduce that the GTS has very slightly more power above 6700 rpm. So, actually, I would surmise that the GTS motor, in standard parlance is slightly peakier and the 991 engine slightly more mid-band oriented. In practice, I'd guess the difference is pretty small.
BTW, I'd say the GTS is a keeper.
Last edited by Technovc; 12-04-2011 at 10:44 PM.
#22
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Sure this sounds good on paper, but for us there is a disadvantage: lower performance. The new 3.4l will always perform less than if the same engine had a 3.6l. With the same heads, intake, exhaust, compression, etc. having the longer stroke crank would not actually make any more power. It would just make the same peak hp at lower rpms and have more torque everywhere (i.e. more power in the power band).
Even Z06/Z07 became pretty much better deal than a 911 street car for what it delivers for the money. It is odd.
#23
GM is getting ready to release the C7 Corvette which will ditch its 6.2l LS engine for a smaller 5.5l next gen V8. If you take a look back at what happened to the automobile industry from 1970 to 1975, think about 2011 as equivalent to 1970.
#24
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perhaps. i still find it odd with what porsche is doing with engines. and if they will not put new 9a1 concept into their new 991ish cup car it only adds up to that oddity.