dertub

What's your feeling on the possibility of a GT3 version for 2013? After all, the 997 started in 2005 with a GT3 in 2006 and RS in 2007.

Betternotbigger

I'd love it if they came out with one soon. Really not sure whether to go C2S in 12 months time or wait for sightings of the GT3 up to 24 months later.

rosenbergendo

2007 was GT3 for 997.1!

jason74

It wouldn't surprise if they are going to bring the 'specials' to market sooner. We are already seeing the cab pix. Also, BMW is making a push to get the M cars out closer to base model launch d/t demand, marketing. So, I would guess that Porsche will follow this trend...

dertub

I have a 2004 GT3 and 2007 GT3 RS 997.1

kosmo

im only going to guess that the GT cars wont come out until the year 2013. Porsche a lot busier these days, w/ the boxster/cayman and the hideous new Cajun. Just guessing.

Mike in CA

I posted an excerpt from an interview with Porsche CEO Matthias Muller a while back. He says he expects GT versions of the 991 to be out mid or second half of 2012.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...?highlight=GT3

brake dust

Mike,

Saw/posted the same info! With the states goal of increasing the total number of units sold, seems to make sense to introduce new models more quickly. Guessing mid 2012 and badged as a 2013.

10 GT3

They have already said it will have the new 7-sp manual and 7-sp PDK option. Since neither of those transmissions will bolt to a Metzger engine, the surprise is the new GT cars get 9A1 engines. The GT3 will basically be a glorified Carrera S. The only good thing is that it will probably be a 4.0L as a 9A1 S 3.8l block with a 3.6l crank makes a 4.0L (3996 cc to be exact), basically the opposite of how they brought the displacement on the new Carrera down by putting a 3.8l crank in a 3.6l block to make a 3.4l (3436cc to be exact).

utkinpol

it is beyond me why they still made a 3.4l model. manufacturing costs to produce both engines must be exactly same. i do not get it why did they have to maintain 2 different engine sizes. or is it a European thing - to buy a $100K euro car and save on gas after that?

10 GT3

Same reason why they are going to a 7-sp manual and it is definitely NOT performance...fuel economy. Carreras will outsell Carrerra S models and the cafe standard is getting a lot tougher over the next few years. Take a look at all the other auto manufacturers in the industry. Everyone is going to smaller displacement engines in their bread and butter models. A smaller displacement engine moves less air when cruising at the same rpms (assuming same compression and airflow capabilities). The new 7-sp manual has the same ratios as the PDK 7-sp. Gears 1 to 6 are basically the same as the previous 6-sp. Gear 7 is taller for just fuel economy. I also read that Porsche is also planning to reduce the displacement of the base Boxster/Coxster engine when the new models come out for the same reason.

Sure this sounds good on paper, but for us there is a disadvantage: lower performance. The new 3.4l will always perform less than if the same engine had a 3.6l. With the same heads, intake, exhaust, compression, etc. having the longer stroke crank would not actually make any more power. It would just make the same peak hp at lower rpms and have more torque everywhere (i.e. more power in the power band).

Betternotbigger

Yes. Am I right in thinking that peak torque in the 991 comes at much higher revs than on my 997 GTS, making mine an even more attractive "keeper"

dertub

My intelligence says we are at least a year away. Kinda makes sense since we have to roll out the C4, Targa, etc. probably next Spring.

Tacet-Conundrum

Well with the GT3 let us hope it is a Motor Sports Version of that Seven Speed. I don't need some seventh gear with a ratio that makes it perfect for getting good mileage at 75mph.

Do you think we will finally get a real LSD or perhaps the correct R&P For having fun on the track.

10 GT3

Electronic LSD like the one that comes with the 991 C2S with PTV.