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Old 11-27-2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
7.18,7.27,7.32,7.33,7.42,7.47,7.56
James, stop posting last week's times from my local office-to-home race.
Nobody cares about them either.
Old 11-27-2011, 08:08 PM
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they're electronic diff ratios
Old 11-27-2011, 08:20 PM
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the spec miatas are very fast thru the curves.
Old 11-27-2011, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SharpMan
Doesn't matter to me. I buy 911s because of the styling, the feel through the steering wheel, the rock-hard brakes and the sound. I couldn't care less if it was 4.5, 4.0. 6.3 or any other numbers of seconds to 60...
Originally Posted by SharpMan
Yes, really. Ever driven a first gen Miata? It's a blast because you feel like you're going like hell and about to die any minute. Tiny little tires mean you can drift it at parking lot speeds.

I can honestly say that the numbers are meaningless to me as a purchase motivator.

Do I enjoy seeing them generated? Of course. Do I care if an R8 is "faster" than a 911? Nope.
If quickness is NOT a motivator, and Miata's are so fantastic, why not save yourself $50k then? Brakes and exhaust systems are cheap.

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6.3? really?


I want it all.
Amen
Old 11-28-2011, 12:39 AM
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Interesting. 991S 1/4 mile time/trap is almost exactly what they got with the boxster spyder

spyder: 12.8@109.4
991S: 12.9@109.2

The near identical trap speeds means that they are both putting about the same amount of power to the ground

***EDIT: Nevermind, the quarter mile time was for the R8, not the 991. 991 time was 12.7@113.2

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Old 11-28-2011, 06:36 AM
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The inside line trap time is:

1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 12.7 @ 113.2 (13.0 @ 111.7 w/ TC on)

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...carrera-s.html



Originally Posted by orthojoe
Interesting. 991S 1/4 mile time/trap is almost exactly what they got with the boxster spyder

spyder: 12.8@109.4
991S: 12.9@109.2

The near identical trap speeds means that they are both putting about the same amount of power to the ground
Old 11-28-2011, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewk34
The inside line trap time is:

1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 12.7 @ 113.2 (13.0 @ 111.7 w/ TC on)

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...carrera-s.html
Whoops... My mistake. I quoted the R8 time. Looks like the 991 does put down significantly more power with a trap speed of 113 vs 109mph.
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Originally Posted by pcar964
These stupid performance numbers have descended into irrelevance. These days it's hard to find a car that doesn't do 0-60 under 5 seconds. Anyone obsessing over .1 seconds in this or that performance measure is so completely removed from the joy of driving, its a wonder they bother with cars at all.

The modern day car culture seems to revolve around middle aged men spending huge sums on the latest grand touring cars, driving at the 45mph speed limit to the Saturday cars and coffee meetup to show off their .1 second faster (on paper) self-worth-on-wheels and talk about the latest topgear episode, then on the drive home hit the "sport" button and attempt to impress their justifiably nervous wives around a two-lane onramp while being passed on the outside by a soccer mom in a camry who's late for the game but doesnt know she's in a race for street cred.


I suspect this has been going on for far longer than you state, probably since the early 70's IMHO.
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here's the full test:

http://www.insideline.com/porsche/91...carrera-s.html


BTW here's the insideline's test of a 997.2 S CAB PDK:

http://www.insideline.com/porsche/91...and-video.html

0-60 mph (sec.) 4.2
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 12.4 @ 111.8


Something is definately OFF.
Old 11-28-2011, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ajax-Prime
If quickness is NOT a motivator, and Miata's are so fantastic, why not save yourself $50k then? Brakes and exhaust systems are cheap.



Amen
I like the way the 911 looks, the steering feel, the quality of the build and materials. I also don't fit in a Miata at 6'5".

And, I'll gladly admit I like the prestige. It's a nice car and I like nice things...reminds me why I bust my ***.
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Originally Posted by pcar964
These stupid performance numbers have descended into irrelevance. These days it's hard to find a car that doesn't do 0-60 under 5 seconds. Anyone obsessing over .1 seconds in this or that performance measure is so completely removed from the joy of driving, its a wonder they bother with cars at all.

The modern day car culture seems to revolve around middle aged men spending huge sums on the latest grand touring cars, driving at the 45mph speed limit to the Saturday cars and coffee meetup to show off their .1 second faster (on paper) self-worth-on-wheels and talk about the latest topgear episode, then on the drive home hit the "sport" button and attempt to impress their justifiably nervous wives around a two-lane onramp while being passed on the outside by a soccer mom in a camry who's late for the game but doesnt know she's in a race for street cred.
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The 911 sounds like they've done away with the off/on sport exhaust. Big improvement in sound. To my ears the R8 sounds just slightly better.
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Originally Posted by kosmo
here's the full test:

http://www.insideline.com/porsche/91...carrera-s.html


BTW here's the insideline's test of a 997.2 S CAB PDK:

http://www.insideline.com/porsche/91...and-video.html

0-60 mph (sec.) 4.2
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 12.4 @ 111.8


Something is definately OFF.
The 997 cabriolet was with PDK tranny, while the 991S coupe was with a standard manual? The power difference between the 997 and 991 is not significant. I think chassis/handling is where the meat of the changes are.
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
7.18,7.27,7.32,7.33,7.42,7.47,7.56
Old 11-30-2011, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
These stupid performance numbers have descended into irrelevance. These days it's hard to find a car that doesn't do 0-60 under 5 seconds. Anyone obsessing over .1 seconds in this or that performance measure is so completely removed from the joy of driving, its a wonder they bother with cars at all.

The modern day car culture seems to revolve around middle aged men spending huge sums on the latest grand touring cars, driving at the 45mph speed limit to the Saturday cars and coffee meetup to show off their .1 second faster (on paper) self-worth-on-wheels and talk about the latest topgear episode, then on the drive home hit the "sport" button and attempt to impress their justifiably nervous wives around a two-lane onramp while being passed on the outside by a soccer mom in a camry who's late for the game but doesnt know she's in a race for street cred.


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