alexb76

It's a personal choice, but to me it does indeed look too big for those brakes and 20 in general is not as a versatile of a wheel size, and has very many drawbacks. At least that wheel is by far the best looking 20" offered right now.

Galion

I appreciate your opinion, thank you.
How about this 20" wheels, I kinda like them more now,

Thundertub

"The Look" over the past few decades always seems to involve lots and lots of spokes and sub-spokes and tributary spokes. I have the 10-spoke Sport Classic wheels on my 996 that are for the GT3 of my era. They still look good. The "busy" wheels usually look good. But...

I HATE cleaning my wheels. It is a monumental pain in the rear end. And they ALWAYS need cleaning. Two sides of 10 spokes, ten grooves, 21 hex head nuts, silver finish which immediately shows the brake dust and hangs on to it, etc.

IMHO the true choice, and the most practical one, should be the Fuchs-style wheels offered on various 997.2's and through your Porsche dealers parts department. Why? Because they are dead easy to clean.

So look at those pretty pictures above and spend a moment visualizing sitting on the ground with a hose and soapy sponge and individually cleaning each of the 40 spokes, and the 80 grooves each side where they connect to the outer rim, and the 40 valleys where they connect to the inner hub.

Just sayin'

jrt600

Galion, go with the 20"s if that's what you like. I'm with you on that one - they definitely look better than the 19" version, even with the larger gap between the rotors and the rim. The rougher ride is a small price to pay for the visual upgrade over the 19" rims.

Also, as far as the PDK vs. 7-speed manual, I'd definitely go with the manual. I'm assuming you're keeping your Cayenne S, so why get a Carrera that's less entertaining to drive since you already have an automatic Porsche in the garage for dealing with city traffic? If you didn't use the paddle shifters on your DSG VW, you're probably not going to use them any more on the Carrera. Plus you're gonna have to pay $4-5k for the privilege of owning a less enjoyable car to drive. Just not worth it. Either way, good luck on your purchase.

Sean in Texas

I agree that 20" tires will be more expensive, but riddle me this Batman...

If the 20" setup on the 991 (theoretically) has equal to slightly increased sidewall over the 19"s on the 997, but the ride on the 997 is fine, how will the 991 be too harsh?

djmiroku

I always felt the red dials would be very cool to have, and if I ever ordered my own custom build I would get them. They certainly make an impression when you see them in a new car at the dealership. But, one day I got a service loaner Cayman with the red dials and I got tired of them after about a mile of driving. Now I wouldn't consider them.

Carlo_Carrera

That is a good riddle.

jrt600

The 20" tires have a tire ratio of 295/30 (at least on the 991 S). This means the sidewall's total height is 88.5mm (=295*0.30). The 19" tires are 285/35, meaning their total sidewall height is 99.75mm, or nearly 13% taller than the 20" tires. So the 20" tires have a 'thinner' sidewall, meaning a rougher ride, everything else being equal.

WCE

Compared to the 997 19's the aspect ratio and sidewall heights are the same as the 991 with 20's.

Porsche SHOULD have upsized the brake disc diameter. These 13" rotors date back to the 2001 996 turbo, and they looked kind of small on that car with 18" wheels. I think on the S the front rotors were upsized about 1/2" or so, but the car needs at least 14" front and rear with the 20's. Especially since the calipers are painted red and the discs are drilled, which are basically for looks anyway!

Sean in Texas

From the USA website:

997S
F 235/35
R 295/30

991S
F 245/35
R 295/30

So more sidewall for the fronts, equal sidewall for the rears. I'm guessing a very comparable ride.

Tacet-Conundrum

Grateful to be in the US when it comes to the cost of new cars. I always end up with a price hovering around $125K for the 911S with most performance options except PCCB. That includes the PDK because it cost more with Sport Chrono; someone correct me if I'm wrong.

911dev

You are correct. Up to the 991, SC Plus was necessary with PDK and I am sure that is still the case. However, the OP had posted some info which may presently contradict that. In the end I still think SC Plus will be needed with PDK to gain all of PDK's attributes.

10 GT3

991S gets 8.5" wide front wheels vs. the 997S having only 8" wide front wheels. Given that the with and aspect ratios are very similar yet the wheel diameter is bigger, you can bet hard money that the wheel/tire combo on the 991 will have a significant weight penalty vs its 997 siblings. This is absolutely the worst place to increase weight.

Max964t36

Hi. I was this morning at Brussels' Porsche dealer.

FYI, prices in this country are the following (VAT included)

C2 90.750 Euro
C2S 105.391 Euro

To which you also have to add several ,000 Euro for registration, annual road tax, etc etc

The list of option is impressive. Here some of them for the C2S (Euro, VAT included)

XAT (Pack Sport Design) 4.549
031 (PASM + PDCC) 4.404
176 (Sport exhaust) 2.843
450 (PCCB) 9.317
250 (PDK) 3.908
639 (Sport Chrono Plus when PDK is ordered too) 2.238

As far as the wheels are concerned, The S comes with 20' stock, different designs may cost between 399 and 1.343

The basic sport seats cost 883 but with more sophisticated options you can spend even 3.956

PCM + Navigation module comes at 3509, but if you wish to watch your favorite TV show while waiting for your wife ransacking some luxury shop in the high street, you need to invest 1.694 more

Max964t36

P.S. In Belgium the alarm system and the VTS are standard options included in the base price