Yes sir it is.

https://www.9xxteile.com/en/support-...design-package

 

and you will need this:

https://www.9xxteile.com/en/rear-wir...design-package

 

Thanks everyone for the help. Going to compare the replica one I purchased up to the oem and see if it’s the same before I decide.

 

Do you know if this piece is required for all versions of the car or just for GTS conversions?

The Porsche parts supplier I bought the ducktail kit from included the majority of the parts in the kit (like the base plate and electrical connectors etc), but didn't include this saying that it's only for the GTS conversions. Which feels extremely strange to me as it seems pretty critical for the install even for non-GTS 991.1s based on the GTS install guide. I can't seem to find an install guide for non-GTS conversions strangely enough.

 

I also noticed that. It only said Gts but I do believe its for all 991.1 cars. The fenders are wider on the 4s and think they are the same on gts but I believe the spoiler area is the same dimensions on all.

 

Pictured is the base plate. You need this part + the ducktail + light filler plate for the engine grill + wiring harness. The rest of the small parts can be poached from your mechanical wing, and nuts and bolts from the hardware store.

This part is the same for all 991.1 (and 991.2 GT3)

Shown here is the base plate attached to the spoiler lower assembly

 

GTS and standard 991.1 all have the same wing parts. The only real difference is the engine lid cover. GTS has the nicer black plastic mini louvers and the standard 911's have the 3 louver engine lid cover.

NOTE: Porsche states you CANNOT use the GTS engine cover with the duck, but I have been using one for 3 years and track days with ZERO issues.

 

Things are starting to get confusing a bit with naming so let me include this picture (from the GTS install instructions):


I would refer to #3 as the base plate.

I'm asking about #6 which appears to be this piece: https://www.9xxteile.com/en/support-...design-package
It was not included in my conversion (everything else was except for #6, #17 and #11, #11 makes sense that it wasn't included since the existing rear light should be re-used).

The parts supplier I went with is saying #6 is not included with the non-GTS conversion and I'm trying to figure out what's specific about #6 to a GTS and whether I need it or not for my non-GTS vehicle.

It sounds like you are saying I do need it (which would make sense to me).

 

Ah, AdamSanta I saw your message before the pictures were included / loaded.

Your pictures make sense, I definitely need that part.

Thanks!

 

Yes #6 is the way the new spoiler attaches to the old spoiler lower

Give me a shout if you have any questions. On my car (2012) the brake light wire was on a different pin, so I had to make a lil jumper harness but easy enough

At one point I had the 9XX Teile kit here and the OEM.

The OEM was on my car with the GTS engine grill

As much as I love my new 991.2, I def miss the ducktail and the exhaust sound.

 

Makes sense. Thanks for the sanity check.

From reading other people's previous investigations, some people concluded that Porsche states that you shouldn't use for GTS engine cover due to having 2 visible rear tail lights, not due to a performance/airflow reason with the grille.
Which seems logical to me, it was easier for Porsche to say "Don't do this" than to provide OEM support for these two parts working together.

 

Great looking pictures!

I saw someone had managed to get a non-OEM ducktail installed on a .2 but I would be slightly concerned about long term cooling issues because of it.

I have a November 2013 but I also am missing the exposed screw on the wind deflector (a sign of early production 991.1s) so I expect that I may run into some complication with getting the wiring to play nicely.

I'll hit you up I get stuck on the wiring, thanks!

 

This is a long term goal and would love to learn more.

Im not sure if I have the aero lip on my S already but supposedly for balance you need the aero lip with ducktail.

 

The standard engine cover also has an exposed brake light, the filler plate (you move the brake light from the engine lid cover to the duck) works both on the standard engine lid AND the GTS/50th anniversary engine lid cover.

So the dual brake light thing is NOT the issue. I had a duck originally with the standard 3 louvre cover then eventually replaced it with a 50th anniversary cover (same as gts with silver trim) and I just moved over the filler plate to cover where the brake light would go for cars without the duck.

My understanding was that the cooling/air intake would be affected not a Brake light issue as there isn't one.

 

Hey there fellow Jersey 911.

Porsche says that if you put on a ducktail on you need to match the aero downforce in the front with the SportDesign/GTS front bumper. I think if you have the standard bumper, a sport-pasm front limp should be ok.. don't kill the messenger. It also states that if you have a GTS engine grille, it requires the standard thick-slat engine cover for proper cooling. All of this is also on Suncoast's website under the ducktail. Like I said, I've seen guys on here with ducktails and standard bumpers & GTS grilles.

This is my 4S with the factory SportDesign pkg.