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The fact you got engine and trans faults leads me to think battery. I've experienced this with both of my sparingly driven cars. Now I keep them on battery tenders. Also, wouldn't a misfire throw a specific "misfire" code? That's been my experience at least with coil pack failures on my BMW's. At 5 years, it's time to replace the battery anyway.
#17
Agree coils most logical issue. Go ahead and replace battery too if it’s 5 years old so you are not stranded somewhere.
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I just replaced battery on wife's '13 Cayenne GTS and was surprised to see Original battery (114K miles). Although we didn't have any issues (prob just got lucky), gas milage, Auto start stop little things like that had been affected for a while. The car even seems to run smoother and better if that makes sense.
5-6 yr replacement is probably a very good habit
5-6 yr replacement is probably a very good habit
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This also happened on my car - the coils on the .2 are not as rigid as the .1 coils and that flex causes issues like this. My $$ is on this being the issue.
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Good stuff all, thanks! Short on time now but will follow up later. Plan to car on lift tomorrow and go from there. Have had some suspicions about battery before but didn't think about it being related..
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OP says he has the iCarsoft. Does the iCarsoft have the ability to check the health of the battery? Curious as I just purchased one and would like to know for both the OP and myself. I haven't yet had the chance to play around with it yet.
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So I rechecked the codes with the iCarsoft with engine running and for both the DME and TCM, it read no faults. However, checking the "view data" screen, I saw the following. Can anyone tell me what these mean (if anything)?
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To me they just look like stored codes from when you had the roughness and misfires.
What is the Voltage on instrument cluster when you move the key to ON position before starting?
Is the voltage at least in the 12.0-12.1 range?
What is the Voltage on instrument cluster when you move the key to ON position before starting?
Is the voltage at least in the 12.0-12.1 range?
#26
Is the engine off? You're getting N/A for misfires but I can see engine roughness values. The misfire counter is a live feed of the misfires that the ECU detects per 2,000 ignitions as the car records this data in blocks. To my knowledge, the ECU reads the data by comparing the # of misfires against the block (2,000 ignitions) and the total # of misfires against the number of times the cylinder fires during a trip. Once the # of misfires exceeds the thresholds, the car will throw a warning light.
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Does it tell you at which mileage these DTC appeared? I you have misfire on all cylinders, it could be caused by not enough juice going to the coils (failing alternator or battery? check your grounds as well), it could be a problem of harness (damaged) or problem of fuel.
Have you torque the spark plug at the correct torque value?
I'd suggest to erase the codes, drive the car again and identify the life case when the codes appear : do the misfire code appear at idle or when the engine is loaded, when engine is cold or hot, when the PDK is in D or N, vehicle running or static etc?
Have you torque the spark plug at the correct torque value?
I'd suggest to erase the codes, drive the car again and identify the life case when the codes appear : do the misfire code appear at idle or when the engine is loaded, when engine is cold or hot, when the PDK is in D or N, vehicle running or static etc?
#28
Also check you don't have any leakage in your intake lines.
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I'm feeling really dumb here but I don't see a voltage value anywhere on the instrument cluster with key on, no starting. I had it on a float charger for the last 2 days and did a load test after disconnecting charger, battery tests good.
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Is the engine off? You're getting N/A for misfires but I can see engine roughness values. The misfire counter is a live feed of the misfires that the ECU detects per 2,000 ignitions as the car records this data in blocks. To my knowledge, the ECU reads the data by comparing the # of misfires against the block (2,000 ignitions) and the total # of misfires against the number of times the cylinder fires during a trip. Once the # of misfires exceeds the thresholds, the car will throw a warning light.