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Old 09-16-2021, 01:11 PM
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I just got a call from my dealer saying Porsche has released a software update for 991.1 sport chrono cars and the stop sale has been lifted for updated cars. He had no other information.
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:18 PM
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Curious to see a before/after dyno or similar analysis of this update.
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Well, a dealer near me has 4 non-Turbo cars with PDK and Chrono up for sale right now.

Prices are insane, as expected. Let's see what this does to the rest of the market.
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Any volunteers here? Or is it just like with the vaccine late last year - let the neighbor get it first
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I am def not bringing my car in to a dealer for ANY software updates LOL
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:56 PM
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Definitely would want to know what the software downgrade would do to the car.
Old 09-16-2021, 04:11 PM
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Any recall would be posted on National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website, nothing there yet:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2013/P...Communications

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Originally Posted by bb964
Any recall would be posted on National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website, nothing there yet:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2013/P...Communications
And it never will be. It's not a vehicle safety recall. It is emissions related. See the giant thread on the stop sale order.
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Originally Posted by Southbranch
And it never will be. It's not a vehicle safety recall. It is emissions related. See the giant thread on the stop sale order.
IMHO a government mandated emissions action will most likely be a recall. Even if it's not, if you look at the link above closely, there are 167 items, most are manufacturer communications including software updates.
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Originally Posted by bb964
IMHO a government mandated emissions action will most likely be a recall. Even if it's not, if you look at the link above closely, there are 167 items, most are manufacturer communications including software updates.
We don't know that it is "government mandated' yet. So far, Porsche's stop sale order was voluntarily initiated and hasn't even risen to the level of a manufacturer's customer service campaign (since it only applied to Porsche dealers that have affected cars in their inventories). Perhaps the new software modification ultimately will end up being mandatory somehow, but if so, it won't be in the form of a NHSTA safety recall. This is more of an EPA issue.

It certainly never hurts the check for recalls, but when you do a VIN search on the NHTSA website, it explains what the search tool will and will not show. It says it will not show "Manufacturer customer service or other nonsafety recall campaign".

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Originally Posted by bb964
Any volunteers here? Or is it just like with the vaccine late last year - let the neighbor get it first
Haha we must be in the same neighborhood! Not letting the dealership near mine!
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If the fix involves DME/ECU remapping, I wonder if they could fix my 2400 rpm stumble while they're in there? One can always hope......
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Do we think it's for PDK cars only or also Manuals?
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Originally Posted by marcnyc
Do we think it's for PDK cars only or also Manuals?
It's PDK with Sport Chrono only. Manuals with Chrono have been up for sale as normal this year.
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Originally Posted by noahabel
It's PDK with Sport Chrono only. Manuals with Chrono have been up for sale as normal this year.
not true.. my 991.1 sports chrono manual has been held by the dealership since may 2021


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