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Old 07-22-2021, 12:43 AM
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I 've had my '18 911T Manual for 3 months and 2000 fun miles , getting settled in so to speak .. I bought this Used / CPO'd with 24K miles . Super clean and well maintained

Noticed a couple quirks Im curious if anyone can comment on:

- My Transmission gear engagement in 1st and 2nd gears is kind of "Nothcy" not usually silky smooth smooth . Seems more prevalent when cold , but wondering if this is normal? 3rd - 7th don't experience this.

- My clutch engagement is not linear , no slippage , but engages crisply in the last 1/2 of pedal travel - tough to articulate .Anyone else with a 991.2 have input?

I just drove a friends new Cayman GT4 and his 6 speed manual had no notch gear engagement nor a non linear clutch engagement .

Thanks in advance !!!
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Everything you described sounds normal.

It gets better with more muscle memory. But, will never be as good as the 6-speed Cayman.

When was your car's last brake fluid flush? Since the brake fluid and clutch fluid are a shared system, your pedal feel and engagement point may improve with this every 2-year maintenance procedure.

Congrats on the new 911.
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I second the above. I was going back and forth between a used 991 or a new 718 GTS and the MT in the latter is much smoother (but that didn’t stop me from buying a 991).
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Since the brake fluid and clutch fluid are a shared system, your pedal feel and engagement point may improve with this every 2-year maintenance procedure.
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I had no idea about this.

@LexVan So you’re saying that when you flush the brake fluid you’re actually also simultaneously flushing the clutch fluid? I guess that explains why there’s no scheduled maintenance just for clutch fluid.

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I had no idea about this.

@LexVan So you’re saying that when you flush the brake fluid you’re actually also simultaneously flushing the clutch fluid? I guess that explains why there’s no scheduled maintenance just for clutch fluid.
Yes, sir.
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Sounds normal. The manual in these cars is not as good as the manual in the mid-engine cars.

Another thread is diving into this rathole as well, specific to problems with launching the car at higher rpms. It just doesn't do it very well.
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I owned a 981 CS and went to a 991.1 C2S and noticed the shifter right away, it was more vague and not as precise as the cayman. Once I upgraded to the Numeric Racing shifter and cables along with the function first Orange trans mount, the shifting has improved to the point where I feel it can rival my Cayman's stock shifter setup
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Everything you described sounds normal.

It gets better with more muscle memory. But, will never be as good as the 6-speed Cayman.

When was your car's last brake fluid flush? Since the brake fluid and clutch fluid are a shared system, your pedal feel and engagement point may improve with this every 2-year maintenance procedure.

Congrats on the new 911.
Thanks, Love it !!! I believe the dealer changed the Brake fluid at the CPO inspection , they advanced the 2 yr 30K mile service - will CK
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Originally Posted by jt3sd
Noticed a couple quirks Im curious if anyone can comment on:
- My Transmission gear engagement in 1st and 2nd gears is kind of "Nothcy" not usually silky smooth smooth . Seems more prevalent when cold , but wondering if this is normal? 3rd - 7th don't experience this.
Until the car warms up, I feel the same in my T. Once warm it feels much smoother and I don't notice anything unusual.
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Default 2nd gear cold up shift

First shift from 1st to 2nd when car is cold, I double clutch and trans sidles right into 2nd gear. After the 1st shift, the transmission is happy.
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Same here on a 991.1. During the first few minutes the shifter is notchy. When warm is smooth.

As for the engagement, I still congratulate myself when I can do a 1/2/3 engagement that doesn’t involve that small amount of jumpiness. The travel is long but the engagement seems to happen in a very narrow window.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Yes, sir.
Not really. The old fluid stays in the line to the clutch system unless you bleed at the clutch slave
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Not really. The old fluid stays in the line to the clutch system unless you bleed at the clutch slave
and is that what is in the manual for dealer procedure?

Curious if this happens by default at a dealer brake flush or if you would have to request it.
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Originally Posted by spiderv6
and is that what is in the manual for dealer procedure?

Curious if this happens by default at a dealer brake flush or if you would have to request it.
Not sure what the dealer does, but i'd assume they will do the absolute minimum.
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Here you go: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1076...-bleeding.html


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