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Old 03-24-2021, 12:36 PM
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yoko apex is the answer U R looking for, love mine
Old 03-24-2021, 10:28 PM
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I like the N2 PZeros that came on my Carrera T. That said, I'll probably go PS4S when these are cooked.
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I just installed a set of Michelin PS4S last week.. only driven them for the last couple of days, but can already tell they really are the best tires for the car. I am coming from a set of Pirelli that were the original tires on the car, and they are **** compared to the Michelin. If you arent tracking your car, the Pilot Cup 2 will take too long to heat up and give you traction on a regular basis... I had them on my Cayman S for track use, but they were not great for the street.

Go PS4S. you wont be disappointed
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I have 18,259 miles on a set of four Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires on my 2015 Carrera S (rear wheel drive) with PASM and PDCC. The front tires that started at 10/32" have 8/32" tread left and the rear (295) have 6/32" tread left. The wear bars are 3/32".meaning there is 7/32" safe tread available. The 18,259 includes a 6,018 mile drive from California to Nashville and back in 29 days of mostly highway driving.
My car now has 58,200 miles on it.
The Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), first developed for Cayenne to keep the camber flat for off-road rock climbing, has a drop link on each end of the anti-roll bars that is computer monitored to keep each tire's tread flat from side to side. Seems to really extend tire life.
My original Pirelli P Zero tires lasted 22,000 miles on the rear and the second set on the rear were replaced after 18,000 miles with tread left as I picked up a nail. The front Pirelli P-Zero tires lasted to 39,000 miles with some tread still left.
The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires seem to be lasting twice as long as the original Pirelli P-Zero tires.
I drive spiritedly, but do not track my car. I really did not find much difference on the road between the Pirelli P-Zero tires and the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s as far as handling, ride or even noise.
I did not specify NO on my Michelin or on my Pirelli replacement rear tires. Mostly due to unavailability of NO tires and I am driving on the street and rarely exceed 75 mph or so.

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Old 03-25-2021, 07:43 AM
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My car came with the Yokohamas as OEM. I wouldn't have picked them but they have been fine. No track time. Just under 7K on the car, but I run Sottozeros from Nov-Apr (bulk of driving in the other months). I haven't measured but plenty of tread left F/R. Probably go with the PS4S when the time comes from what I've read. Part of that is the Yokos seem to be at least as expensive as the Michelins.
FWIW, I never really push the car. It's much more a cruiser than a "spirited driver".
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Hey Guys,

Just a quick thank you to all the folks who gave me their feedback. I ordered Continentals but it turned out they were backordered so I couldn't get them and switched to PS4s. I assumed I wouldn't feel that much of a difference so I had low expectations. Boy was I wrong, going from Pzeros it was like night and day difference. Handling felt more precise, better grip, less road noise.

This might be all in my imagination but if I had to characterize it the car was less twitchy and more planted. Driving felt smoother.

I'm a convert, if your going to spend 1200 for tires you might as well spend 1400. LOL
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wstsdphisg
Hey Guys,

Just a quick thank you to all the folks who gave me their feedback. I ordered Continentals but it turned out they were backordered so I couldn't get them and switched to PS4s. I assumed I wouldn't feel that much of a difference so I had low expectations. Boy was I wrong, going from Pzeros it was like night and day difference. Handling felt more precise, better grip, less road noise.

This might be all in my imagination but if I had to characterize it the car was less twitchy and more planted. Driving felt smoother.

I'm a convert, if your going to spend 1200 for tires you might as well spend 1400. LOL
glad it worked out that way for you. I 100% agree. They do make a difference and in my opinion are the right tire for the car.
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Originally Posted by Scottish Pete
I have 18,259 miles on a set of four Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires on my 2015 Carrera S (rear wheel drive) with PASM and PDCC. The front tires that started at 10/32" have 8/32" tread left and the rear (295) have 6/32" tread left. The wear bars are 3/32".meaning there is 7/32" safe tread available. The 18,259 includes a 6,018 mile drive from California to Nashville and back in 29 days of mostly highway driving.
My car now has 58,200 miles on it.
The Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), first developed for Cayenne to keep the camber flat for off-road rock climbing, has a drop link on each end of the anti-roll bars that is computer monitored to keep each tire's tread flat from side to side. Seems to really extend tire life.
My original Pirelli P Zero tires lasted 22,000 miles on the rear and the second set on the rear were replaced after 18,000 miles with tread left as I picked up a nail. The front Pirelli P-Zero tires lasted to 39,000 miles with some tread still left.
The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires seem to be lasting twice as long as the original Pirelli P-Zero tires.
I drive spiritedly, but do not track my car. I really did not find much difference on the road between the Pirelli P-Zero tires and the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s as far as handling, ride or even noise.
I did not specify NO on my Michelin or on my Pirelli replacement rear tires. Mostly due to unavailability of NO tires and I am driving on the street and rarely exceed 75 mph or so.
Your mileage on the Michelins is impressive. I have about 10.5 k miles on the Michelins on my 18 C4S and the rears are down to 4 mm (5/32nds) and the fronts are at 5-6 mm. I don't do a lot of highway driving so mostly fast backroads and I use comfort pressure, 29/33 F/R. The Michelins are not much quieter than the P zeros that came with my car so I concur with your observations. I do push my car in the corners so perhaps that is the reason I am noticing much faster tread wear. I will be lucky to get 15k out of the rear tires. The tires also do chatter when cold but overall, they are good but very pricey.

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Old 04-20-2021, 12:47 AM
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It's all good....

The euphoria at an speed or maneuver is not to be wasted....

Instead count the time in minutes and hours of enjoyment,

The seconds are just as thrilling too!

*a decompression chamber for the times.


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Any good deals around for PS4S? Is Tirerack the best bet?
Old 04-20-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by koven
Any good deals around for PS4S? Is Tirerack the best bet?

I ordered mine from Discount Tire, it was about $100 less then TR out the door (mount/ballance) than just the tires from TR.
Old 04-20-2021, 01:05 PM
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got mine from Discount also, its about a push with TR,and alot easier dealing with one entity.
Old 04-21-2021, 12:46 PM
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I purchased from Discount Tire as well, but I think the cost from Costco is actually a better deal overall. Big difference is what Costco charges for TPMS vs. Discount Tire. Also Costco has a $150 rebate right now only $90 at Discount tire. It was a last minute change for me so I was stuck otherwise I would have gone with Costco.



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