edirtaynine

did u have a rough day yesterday?

uphoto

Post at 11:52pm......rant about Porsche and Corvette that makes no sense.

somebody can’t handle their alcohol.

Ginzo

Wow, who licked the red off of your candy? What does the average 911 sell for new? $120K and up?? That is not a car for the masses. I agree the 996 was not the best model but it offers some great opportunities for many people and there is a 996 forum next door and you just insulted their intellect and passions by making some pretty overtly rude comments. Dollar for dollar the Corvette packs more performance and is very desirable for many people. I have owned 2 vettes and 2 porsches. It’s all personal and some has to do with budgets. You like to track you car, that’s a great hobby. I have never tracked a car because I would be concerned that it is a very expensive hobby and don’t want to afford it. Drive it like you stole it or baby it and wax it. How can one be critical of someone that does not have the same interests? Of those four cars I have owned 3 were manuals and my latest is a PDK. I loved them all but at this time in my life I love the PDK and think its an amazing piece of engineering. Car people are great. The car or cars you have as a hobby matters not. If I had the money I would have a garage like Jay Leno. Of course I don’t and feel so fortunate that I am in a position in life to have my common car, the car for the masses, the car that has become the corvette. I think there is a picture of it below.

DaveGee

What a stupid thread. Porsche offers enough models and variations that there’s something for everyone. Do with your car what you will.

DaveGee

Stealth 993

I feel as base prices keep going up, most cars will be driven less. That is just the way it goes, no one really wants to loose their shorts on a purchase.
My wife is still pissed at me at how much my "used" GT3 cost, and that it is the most expensive car ever. Of course the Dealer experience is going down, and keeping the 911 on the road is starting to cost some serious money! Just look at what it cost to replace PCCB rotors, it's insane!

While more people drive 911's in the wet and snow, vs Corvette and Ferrari owners, they are getting closer to garage queens over the DD and drive everywhere car.

It kills me ANYTIME I meet another sport car owner, and they have never taken the car to redline, used launch control, or driven the car aggressively. Yes, it's funny when they have NO IDEA what they are driving. Some people just like jewelry and it will always be that way. I drive my cars, and take them to the track, a GT3 is a **** DD, and not a good road trip car, but I love every mile in it!

subwoofer

Speaking of Corvettes, I test drove the new MB E450 all terrain yesterday as a possible family car. It drove quite big and was floaty and harsh at the same time. Could be the run flats. Very disappointed. Tech seemed like overkill with billions of small icons on the giant twin screens. What does this have to do with Corvettes oe 911s? Nothing but I thought I might as well throw this in here Haha..

Vicbastige

I don't give a schitt how others enjoy their 911, only care how I enjoy mine.

PS- really.

MotorCityDriver

Enjoy what you have be it a Pinto thru Bugatti, in our cases Pcars.

rileyracing1

This post is as stupid as the poster .... Like comparing apples to oranges ..... Can't we like all cars for what they are.... Hell I don't understand Caprice's with 24 inch or even bigger wheels or cars that bounce ??? but I appreciate the car culture behind it.

Guards_Red_991

Jim, I'm happy to answer your question. Please read on...

I was very poor when I was a kid, I was destined to become another statistic. I wanted a Porsche 911 since my early teens. I left a third world country in my early 20's to escape violence and low life, one suitcase and $5k. Awesome Americans gave me a chance (thank you). I became an Engineer and worked my *** off, I am now a VP in a top 10 consulting firm. One day I realized it was time to fulfill my childhood dream so I got a Porsche 911 (twice now).

You may rash the crap out of your Porsche to feel accomplished. I wax mine to feel exactly the same way. To me is a tangible proof of perseverance, hard work and success, it didn't come easy for me. Every time I open my garage and see my accomplishment I look up to the sky and say "You were wrong about me Dad, I made it". I now spend countless amounts of quality time with my son in the garage, we wax and polish and vacuum, and we also chat a lot. One thing I always make sure to say is "Son, one day you will make it".

Hope I answered your question,

Poseur.

P.S. Check out my garage in my profile pic. My 911 and my son's MR2, cannot wait to drive together to car meets!

systemr

stout

^ Love this post, and love that profile pic.

Count me in among those who lament how many RS 4.0s simply sit. Their art is in the driving, not the looking. Also count me in among those with "a few" very high-paced miles in a lot of machinery, including every Porsche I've owned but one (which was an albatross), but also one who takes zero pleasure in hammering a car. I don't see the need (heavy hands and feet don't make you go faster, but do increase wear and tear—or equipment failures), and actually take pleasure in smaller inputs. YMMV, and that's what makes the world go around.

But the idea that over-revs don't matter is crazy. Over-revs fall under abuse in my book, and you end up with a ticking time bomb that can go off anytime—whether on your watch or someone else's. Whether it happens immediately or way down the road comes down to how much torque value is lost when those rod bolts stretch. If they stretch. While I might buy a great car with mild over-revs, they're never a good sign to me.

As for those who do polish & preserve, I may not agree with them, but I am thankful for them—as they're preserving the reference cars (and good "unused" cars....) that leave me feeling just fine about piling the miles on and modding to my heart's content.

james280

Note to self: Don't buy jimwood's used 911's.

BSO

I don't track my 991.2, but I've been to PTX Birmingham several times to thrash any number of Porsches with a clear mind, loads of fun!

I do drive mine everywhere and have 14k miles since 1/19 when I got delivery. I will flog it to the redline whenever I can and from my butt dyno, it feels like it's wearing in and getting smoother if not faster.

The OP has a point, it seems a shame that a car as capable as the 911 is not driven to its limits by many. Whenever I've been to the local dealer, there are trade-ins with just a few K miles on the clock, and according to the sales staff, this is quite common.

As to the Porsche v Corvette, the local PCA chapter has held several timed events and the Porsches have come out on top.

As to reliability? I gave up on the domestic auto makers after three transmissions on the last Chevrolet that I owned. I looked hard at the C7 Corvette before buying my 911, the Corvette had several on-going issues that turned me away.

That being said, the C8 is quite an accomplishment and if it turns out to be reliable could be a buy option for many.

Catharpin

I own both, have many miles on both. Very different cars for very different purposes. Drive both year round. I have used my Vette to haul firewood, would never do that in the 911. No problem driving the 911 in the rain, Vette sucks in the rain. Very different cars.