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Old 01-07-2021, 01:00 AM
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Hi all! I've been planning on adding the DSC controller to my car for a bit, and while the time hasn't come for that quite yet I'm about to get an alignment and so am now considering throwing on a set of GT3 lower control arms beforehand. I believe that I've read that some feel like the DSC + GT3 LCAs is a great "done" point to make this car handle significantly better without going completely overboard, but I'd love your opinions. The usage will primarily be street driving, though a lot of that is "spirited" (road rallies, club drives, weekend romps, etc.) and it will see occasional track days.

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991.2 C2S (w/ X51, so GTS power)
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KW HAS (a bit lower than stock)
Bump steer kit (to correct lowered geo)
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What are you trying to achieve from the GT3 LCA's?

I am lowered on TechArt springs with the DSC controller on my .2 GTS. The car handles fantastic but I dont think the springs made it handle any better. I did get a proper alignment and maxed out stock camber at -2.2 up front (once lowered)

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Speaking from experience on a 997.1 - I’d only go adjustable LCAs if you want more camber than you can get out of stock suspension, or if you want to go semi solid/monoball, but that’s a pretty serious move as you’d be increasing NVH.
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Originally Posted by LWG
What are you trying to achieve from the GT3 LCA's?

I am lowered on TechArt springs with the DSC controller on my .2 GTS. The car handles fantastic but I dont think the springs made it handle any better. I did get a proper alignment and maxed out stock camber at -2.2 up front (once lowered)
How are you getting -2.2 from the stock mounting points on the shock and lower control arms.

My 4s spasm can only get -1.7
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Originally Posted by Rapter
How are you getting -2.2 from the stock mounting points on the shock and lower control arms.

My 4s spasm can only get -1.7
Dont quote me but I believe the GTS has more freedom to dial in more camber up front. I'm also lowered.
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Originally Posted by LWG
Dont quote me but I believe the GTS has more freedom to dial in more camber up front. I'm also lowered.
Lowered makes a big difference on the stock camber you can achieve.
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You probably already seen this thread, I posted some info about my setup

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...errerid=197918

I have adjustable LCAs on my car which allowed me to get to -3deg negative or more up front. I think GT3 arms is a good choice if you want to drive the car on road trips. Mine has spherical joints and solid adjustable caster pucks, makes for a few clunks and clicks on normal bumpy roads in NorCal. The GT3 arms have adjustability via the spacers but still have some compliance for road use. One thing to bear in mind is that if you lengthen the arms your caster will be out. There are a few ways to correct, one is adjustable solid puck in the control arm or adjustable thrust arm. Based on my experience if I wanted to compromise for road use I would go GT3 arms and adjustable thrust arms (or you could always live with the caster being out if your camber wasn’t too extreme)

I hope this helps.

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Why LCA's over Camber Plates?
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Originally Posted by mic_crispy
Why LCA's over Camber Plates?
I wanted to increase the track.
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Just now getting back to this. Thanks for the input; apologies for the delayed response! I ended up passing on LCAs for now. Going to do the DSC controller first (it's on the way) then go back to LCAs if I'm going to spend more time on track.

Originally Posted by LWG
What are you trying to achieve from the GT3 LCA's?
More camber and steering feel via monoball.

Originally Posted by nzskater
Speaking from experience on a 997.1 - I’d only go adjustable LCAs if you want more camber than you can get out of stock suspension, or if you want to go semi solid/monoball, but that’s a pretty serious move as you’d be increasing NVH.
Yep, that was my thinking.

Originally Posted by Ecosse911
You probably already seen this thread, I posted some info about my setup

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...errerid=197918

I have adjustable LCAs on my car which allowed me to get to -3deg negative or more up front. I think GT3 arms is a good choice if you want to drive the car on road trips. Mine has spherical joints and solid adjustable caster pucks, makes for a few clunks and clicks on normal bumpy roads in NorCal. The GT3 arms have adjustability via the spacers but still have some compliance for road use. One thing to bear in mind is that if you lengthen the arms your caster will be out. There are a few ways to correct, one is adjustable solid puck in the control arm or adjustable thrust arm. Based on my experience if I wanted to compromise for road use I would go GT3 arms and adjustable thrust arms (or you could always live with the caster being out if your camber wasn’t too extreme)

I hope this helps.
Thanks for the input! I'll definitely revisit this if/when I decide to make this move.
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I easily get -2.5 with just offset camber plates, assuming you don't care about front track width, Elephant racing or Tarret off center plates work great.



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