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Old 11-10-2020, 02:32 AM
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I am in the market looking for 991 Carrera S or 4S. I see some vehicles which are in my budget and are in good condition too. But there is an accident reported. The accidents were minor to medium and title is still clean. Should I pursue these kind of vehicles? I am worried abt resale as well, but its not a big deal as i plan to keep this for a long time. Any advice is appreciated.

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Old 11-10-2020, 07:19 AM
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I would say if tittle is clean and not salvage title and you’re keeping it - why does it matter?

I would focus on how long after the accident has the person owned it, how many miles driven since and if have been any issues after.

Mine was involved in an accident and after I spoke to both the body shop and my local Porsche who fixed the car I realized how much work and effort went back to making it perfect. I have had zero issues and driven my car very spirited so if you get a good deal then that’s what you deal with is the resale.

I have been offered close to same numbers on mine as one that’s got a clean carfax because of the little upgrades and how clean inside and out my car is. I changed my mind on selling mine as I enjoy it to dam much and a year ago I did get a good deal. Same car today as I bought it a year ago is literally worth 10k more - it’s crazy. Market is changed for sure.
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Plan on selling it in 3-5 years? Don't buy. 5-10 years? Get a really good discount!
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Buying a wrecked porsche is terrible idea. As appealing as the front end lower cost may be your backend headache will surpass any initial benefit. Either way you pay the porsche tax.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:56 AM
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Buying a car that has been in an accident is tricky business, and depends not only on the quality and severity of the repair, but the marque and the appetitive on the resale market for repaired cars. Generally as the car becomes more niche and expensive, there is less tolerance in the buy group for it. Some things such as a front hood replacement are simple bolt-on / bolt-off parts that don't affect the vehicle's performance and it becomes mostly a paint match issues on quality of work. Harder hits that get into the unibody frame are another story. I owed an Aston Martin for several years, and that brand is built primarily of bonded aluminum using special adhesives. You ball up your Aston Martin and the right way to fix it is to use their factory program for repair and ship it back to England where they disassemble the vehicle and rebuild it by section using new factory parts and adhesives. That's a repair that would be "as good as new" because it is new. And no, it won't be an inexpensive fix.

When you get into cars like Ferrari's, the buyer group for damaged and repaired cars is virtually non-existent. Here's an F12 that I was very interested in based on the looks and price, then see it was in not one, but two accidents by two different owners. This car has been passed around more than a Bourbon Street Hooker and is toxic. They can't even get a buyer for - $ 40,000 below current market value.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Ferrar...%7C1000%7C2500
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The fact that it's for sale in S. Florida should be enough of a red flag.
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Originally Posted by duxsi
The fact that it's for sale in S. Florida should be enough of a red flag.
I've heard this a lot. Why do folks say that?
Flooding? Sketchy folks??
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Originally Posted by Anil Vurakaranam
Hi,

I am in the market looking for 991 Carrera S or 4S. I see some vehicles which are in my budget and are in good condition too. But there is an accident reported. The accidents were minor to medium and title is still clean. Should I pursue these kind of vehicles? I am worried abt resale as well, but its not a big deal as i plan to keep this for a long time. Any advice is appreciated.

Cheers!
Any accident blemish on a Carfax is a tough sell. I agree with others, if you're keeping the car long term and the car checks out not that big a deal. Otherwise, when you sell, the difficulty rears its head. It's tough to gauge the impact to the value of the car. I passed on several over the years based on that. Good luck with your search!
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Originally Posted by 3Series
I've heard this a lot. Why do folks say that?
Flooding? Sketchy folks??
Yes, there are a few sketchy folks, but lots of really good ones too. https://mfi-miami.com/2019/09/former...on-porsche-vp/

Stuff, like this does not help either.
Old 11-10-2020, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Series
I've heard this a lot. Why do folks say that?
Flooding? Sketchy folks??
Originally Posted by duxsi
The fact that it's for sale in S. Florida should be enough of a red flag.
Having had lived in Miami and still having relatives there, I think this might be due to the crazy drivers there and high amount of accidents.
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Me personally I would not buy a car that was in an accident unless I can be absolutely sure it was very (EXTREMELY) minor and verified by an independent mechanic AND collision specialist. You can never tell what ripple effects an impact may have on other vehicle systems later down the road and as you are probably aware, while Porsches are known to be 'bullet proof', when problems arise they are costly. If the above 'very extremely minor accident' criteria is met and everything else is perfect about the car, you should be able to knock a MINIMUM of $10-15k off the price of a comparable accident-free car in that range of vehicle you're looking at. If you're going with something that has been in a 'medium' damage accident as you put it, then you are basically gambling with the odds stacked more against you than in favor that a unexpected issue will occur. I'd let the medium damaged vehicles go to someone who's less concerned than me about repairs or unless you don't plan to keep more than a few years.
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Buy CPO and avoid ones that have damage history.
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Old 11-10-2020, 04:00 PM
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Nothing will be perfect. It can be repaired really well. You could have problems down the road. Creaks, groans that only show up with specific Temps. Get CPO that wasnt crashed. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by MiamiBlue
Yes, there are a few sketchy folks, but lots of really good ones too. https://mfi-miami.com/2019/09/former...on-porsche-vp/

Stuff, like this does not help either.
Yeah old news, could happen anywhere. Still doesn't explain the sketchy folks comments.

Originally Posted by RPA911
Having had lived in Miami and still having relatives there, I think this might be due to the crazy drivers there and high amount of accidents.
Hmm, more accidents in general.....crazy drivers.....maybe. It sill doesn't explain the S FL negativity on used cars.
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Originally Posted by R N M
Buy CPO and avoid ones that have damage history.
Only way I go ^^^


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