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08-26-2020, 05:11 PM
#16
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Welcome.
Have a .1 and love it.
If I were shopping today, I’d get the .2 no question. Maybe even a nonS. More power and, as someone said, I like to get the awd steering. I’d also like the fact the engine is likely more robust to handle the torque and possibly more reliable. Upgraded PCM and lights.
Few cons: You’ll miss the NA soundtrack, cost more $$, and the .1 looks cleaner to me. Cosmetic updates rarely improve on the original, not a fan of the .2 nose and lower rear bumper. Lastly, there is less .2 inventory.
Have a .1 and love it.
If I were shopping today, I’d get the .2 no question. Maybe even a nonS. More power and, as someone said, I like to get the awd steering. I’d also like the fact the engine is likely more robust to handle the torque and possibly more reliable. Upgraded PCM and lights.
Few cons: You’ll miss the NA soundtrack, cost more $$, and the .1 looks cleaner to me. Cosmetic updates rarely improve on the original, not a fan of the .2 nose and lower rear bumper. Lastly, there is less .2 inventory.
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08-26-2020, 05:13 PM
#17
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Have not driven a .2GTS. Maybe Porsche finally got it right?
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08-26-2020, 06:07 PM
#19
My chief complaint of my .24S was the highly perceptible turbo lag and general sedate driving experience if you aren’t keeping the rpms up. It’s definitely less fatiguing if you want a quiet ride. The turbo lag was truly annoying on interstates when you’re needing to make sequential passes as you’re constantly downshifting each time you want to make a pass. Roll on is terrible in top gear with the lag, making the car seem anemic. Torque is only of value once the waiting period concludes. The base 991.2 either doesn’t have lag or masks it extremely well hence why it was on my short list of replacements.
Have not driven a .2GTS. Maybe Porsche finally got it right?
Have not driven a .2GTS. Maybe Porsche finally got it right?
08-26-2020, 07:24 PM
#20
Drive both, if you havent, and make your choice from there. From the Base to the GTS. Then, take a look at what you value next, and what you are looking for out of your 911. If things like high revving and raw-like induction and exhaust note is high on your priority, narrow your search with a .1. If more usable, updated interior tech, ease of power extraction, turbo noises is what you value more, then narrow your search with a .2 variant.
However, lets forget about all this for a moment, you have a connection with the folks at RUF???!?
There is a lot of members of the 991 community that want that RUF ducktail. You need to make this happen and take one for the team!! Seriously!
However, lets forget about all this for a moment, you have a connection with the folks at RUF???!?
Hi Guys, just joined the forum and look forward to contributing. I am currently looking at buying an 911 (991.1 or 991.2) and hope to find the right one and get it ready for summer of 2021. I have been around Porsche my entire life as my father was a master mechanic for Porsche at Porsche in Stuttgart, Germany and helped launch Ruf Porsche as operations manager for Ruf Porsche in Bahrain. He is good friends with Alois Ruf and with Stefan Roser, the guy that drove the Yellowbird around the Nurburgring for those of you who have seen the Ruf promo video on youtube. Now my younger brother has slipped in and works for Ruf Porsche in Germany running the motor department for all air-cooled engines. I myself although not in the auto industry because my father said there is too much politic (LOL - like every industry) but I have my side hobby racingnostalgia.com (I wont share that again as I have read the rules and no advertising - I hope I am not penalized for this) that falls into the realm of Porsche which I enjoy doing on the side. So question to the group what would you buy with less that 50, 000 miles on the clock: 991.1 or 991.2? I know the difference between the 2 but I want some open thoughts! (And yes, I already got an opinion on the cars from my family but they are not in the USA)
There is a lot of members of the 991 community that want that RUF ducktail. You need to make this happen and take one for the team!! Seriously!
08-26-2020, 07:46 PM
#21
Hi Guys, just joined the forum and look forward to contributing. I am currently looking at buying an 911 (991.1 or 991.2) and hope to find the right one and get it ready for summer of 2021. I have been around Porsche my entire life as my father was a master mechanic for Porsche at Porsche in Stuttgart, Germany and helped launch Ruf Porsche as operations manager for Ruf Porsche in Bahrain. He is good friends with Alois Ruf and with Stefan Roser, the guy that drove the Yellowbird around the Nurburgring for those of you who have seen the Ruf promo video on youtube. Now my younger brother has slipped in and works for Ruf Porsche in Germany running the motor department for all air-cooled engines. I myself although not in the auto industry because my father said there is too much politic (LOL - like every industry) but I have my side hobby racingnostalgia.com (I wont share that again as I have read the rules and no advertising - I hope I am not penalized for this) that falls into the realm of Porsche which I enjoy doing on the side. So question to the group what would you buy with less that 50, 000 miles on the clock: 991.1 or 991.2? I know the difference between the 2 but I want some open thoughts! (And yes, I already got an opinion on the cars from my family but they are not in the USA)
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08-26-2020, 10:11 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16
Racing__Nostalgia - there are numerous very lengthy threads in the 991 forum on this exact topic. You could spend hours reading opinions on the 991.1 vs 991.2 debate. I'm an NA guy, so I have a 991.1 GTS cab but I also have a 991.2 (Touring). The 991.2 Carrera was a huge paradigm shift with the turbocharged engine. Some love it, some are old-school, die hard NA guys like myself. Most would tell you to drive both and go after whichever one makes you smile the most.
OP - best to drive both back to back and vote with your wallet. Let us know what you end up getting. Happy shopping!
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08-27-2020, 12:08 AM
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IMHO unless there is something extremely specific you must have in a Porsche (for example air cooled 993) I would simply get the newest Porsche you can afford...
I am sure very few people can dispute that with every generation the car gets more advanced and better performance.
i love the way modern turbos drive.
I am sure very few people can dispute that with every generation the car gets more advanced and better performance.
i love the way modern turbos drive.
08-27-2020, 12:52 AM
#24
I posted this in a similar thread.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town
Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town
Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.
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08-27-2020, 01:00 AM
#25
I posted this in a similar thread.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town
Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.Would you buy a 300 horsepower Ferrari? Would you even look at a new Ferrari if it only had 300 horsepower?
08-27-2020, 02:25 AM
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I would def look at a 300 HP Ferrari, if it was manual and say, close to 2000 lbs. you would have so much fun on the street vs something that you have to be going over 100mph to feel like it’s a sports car.
Prior to my 991.1, I had an Sti turbo and a Supra TT among others. There’s something to going back to NA RWD, it’s a different kind of fast. You have to work a bit more for it. I like ‘em all and wish I could have them all.
Prior to my 991.1, I had an Sti turbo and a Supra TT among others. There’s something to going back to NA RWD, it’s a different kind of fast. You have to work a bit more for it. I like ‘em all and wish I could have them all.
08-27-2020, 02:40 AM
#27
I would def look at a 300 HP Ferrari, if it was manual and say, close to 2000 lbs. you would have so much fun on the street vs something that you have to be going over 100mph to feel like it’s a sports car.
Prior to my 991.1, I had an Sti turbo and a Supra TT among others. There’s something to going back to NA RWD, it’s a different kind of fast. You have to work a bit more for it. I like ‘em all and wish I could have them all.
Prior to my 991.1, I had an Sti turbo and a Supra TT among others. There’s something to going back to NA RWD, it’s a different kind of fast. You have to work a bit more for it. I like ‘em all and wish I could have them all.
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08-27-2020, 03:07 AM
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08-27-2020, 10:28 AM
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I posted this in a similar thread.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.
In reflecting on this thread and reading the many opinions on how many feel the .1 is so "lacking" around town and in general compared to the .2, I crack up a bit. I start to wonder how many opinions are those of true Porschephiles versus those who base everything on 0 - 60 and beating everyone to the next stoplight. If that is your goal, maybe the 911 isn't for you. 911s are certainly about speed as well but they are so much more. They're about heritage, style, quality of build, and of course overall driving experience. They do make a car for straight line speed bragging rights too...its called a TTS. The notion that any 991 is too slow around town is beyond ridiculous. Glad I'm not living in your town if a 991.1 is too slow around town
Is faster always better? I'm not of that opinion myself. There was a well known air-cooled article a while back where the author asked many air-cooled mechanics and retailers what the "ideal" air cooled car was. 993 you must be thinking. Nope. A surprising number said the "lowly" 911SC. The author then asked "What if someone whats something better than an SC like a 993?" The response was "It won't be better, it will just be faster, heavier, and more complicated." Bottom line, they're all amazing and we're privileged to be able to drive them. I love all 991s by the way.Also ignore the comments around tech and creature comfort. Now that the 992 is out the 991.2 interior is as modern as a dinosaur and much closer to the 991.1 than any modern interior.