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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 10:35 PM
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Porsche Tax. Welcome Welcome but it's pretty normal TBH.

Also realize most MSRP for a Porsche is in the average $120k Range. Where as new STI is maybe at most $40k?

2010 Subaru STI sells for what, $18k now.
2010 Carrera S - Still sells for $60k

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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by awfilms
Porsche Tax. Welcome Welcome but it's pretty normal TBH.

Also realize most MSRP for a Porsche is in the average $120k Range. Where as new STI is maybe at most $40k?

2010 Subaru STI sells for what, $18k now.
2010 Carrera S - Still sells for $60k
I hear you on this car msrp comparison however thats the car. I get that...but a piece of titanium bent to fit a porsche undercarriage should not cost that much more that taking that same piece of titanium and bending for the subaru undercarriage. The material is the same. The bending machine is the same.Maybe I'm missing something..
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000se
I hear you on this car msrp comparison however thats the car. I get that...but a piece of titanium bent to fit a porsche undercarriage should not cost that much more that taking that same piece of titanium and bending for the subaru undercarriage. The material is the same. The bending machine is the same.Maybe I'm missing something..
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 10:44 AM
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Development costs?
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000se
I hear you on this car msrp comparison however thats the car. I get that...but a piece of titanium bent to fit a porsche undercarriage should not cost that much more that taking that same piece of titanium and bending for the subaru undercarriage. The material is the same. The bending machine is the same.Maybe I'm missing something..
Check out the price of an exhaust for a Chiron! Supply & Demand - there are many more Subis than P-cars!
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Development costs?
that's what I was attributing it to as well....knowledge
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000se
I hear you on this car msrp comparison however thats the car. I get that...but a piece of titanium bent to fit a porsche undercarriage should not cost that much more that taking that same piece of titanium and bending for the subaru undercarriage. The material is the same. The bending machine is the same.Maybe I'm missing something..
^^^ this!
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
What really bites is I've been on both sides of this equation. I used to sell performance auto parts. Some of these parts given the wholesale discount would equate to insane profits per item due to the retail cost. Brands such as brabus, hamann, techart, mansory are even worse.
Same, I was in the industry for about 7 years.

Higher margins, lower volume on Porsche parts vs the JDM stuff
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 01:46 AM
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I have some barely used Soul racing headers if you are interested. I am now with full Soul street headers and valved exhaust on my 991.1 and love it.
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spraguedawley
I have some barely used Soul racing headers if you are interested. I am now with full Soul street headers and valved exhaust on my 991.1 and love it.
thanks for the offer. I would be interested in street headers as well
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by spraguedawley
I have some barely used Soul racing headers if you are interested. I am now with full Soul street headers and valved exhaust on my 991.1 and love it.
which version? pics?
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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About to pick up my 991.1. C2 this weekend, probably will want an exhaust upgrade as my 996 had PSE (which was ON when you turned over the car- brilliant!) but my 991.1 will not.

Has anyone had experience here with Tubi exhausts? I know it's a more European 'style', just curious about real-world/hands-on expertise, if any.

Have not heard much about SOUL or Kline before, but now my interest is piqued...

Any love for Sharkwerks? Substantially less expensive than some of the others, but people seem to like them well enough.


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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RSBro
About to pick up my 991.1. C2 this weekend, probably will want an exhaust upgrade as my 996 had PSE (which was ON when you turned over the car- brilliant!) but my 991.1 will not.

Has anyone had experience here with Tubi exhausts? I know it's a more European 'style', just curious about real-world/hands-on expertise, if any.

Have not heard much about SOUL or Kline before, but now my interest is piqued...

Any love for Sharkwerks? Substantially less expensive than some of the others, but people seem to like them well enough.
Tubi are great! I have a friend with one. A little milder that some others mentioned here but very European and refined. It won't disappoint unless you're expecting LOUD. Made incredibly well too.

Sharkwerks is less because most people just go with their X pipe. Sound but likely drone too... They know a lot about Porsche tuning.
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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We very much appreciate everyone supporting us and saying kind things - it makes all our effort worth it! Thank you so much! Here's hoping everyone in this thread is enjoying their exhaust components!

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This isn't a bash... Soul is the cheapest. They are fine for a street car and by the way - they have a no questions asked warranty and have yet to see any failures. Will they stand up to race car abuse like the others? I'd bet not..... are people reading this researching for their race cars? Also - probably not. Will you ever exceed what they can stand up to on the street? I doubt it. It's not like forum participants here are all participating in endurance racing so probably they are fine. Ultimately, while some of the others do have stellar customer service - you won't find better support than soul.
We set the price low to try and be as fair to our customers as we can while still supporting continued research and development, even as the price of metal and catalytic converters surge. We have a history of tracking our own cars - we build our products for both street and track use. We back purge our welds and take quality control very seriously as we DO intend for our components to be used at the track and warranty them with a Lifetime Warranty. We're PCA Racing sponsors, we've been building Race Exhausts, and our 987.1 Boxster / Cayman headers are now legally sanctioned as the official replacement for failure prone factory headers for Spec racers. If anyone ever has any problems, we will bend over backwards to make things right - that's the policy we founded our company on and we'll never change that. Please use our exhaust components to your fullest capabilities!

If anyone is ever considering an exhaust, we welcome the conversation to discuss your goals and mod path to help you make sure you get exactly what you are looking for, and no less - be it SOUL products or any number of our friends in the industry.

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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Soul Performance
We very much appreciate everyone supporting us and saying kind things - it makes all our effort worth it! Thank you so much! Here's hoping everyone in this thread is enjoying their exhaust components!



We set the price low to try and be as fair to our customers as we can while still supporting continued research and development, even as the price of metal and catalytic converters surge. We have a history of tracking our own cars - we build our products for both street and track use. We back purge our welds and take quality control very seriously as we DO intend for our components to be used at the track and warranty them with a Lifetime Warranty. We're PCA Racing sponsors, we've been building Race Exhausts, and our 987.1 Boxster / Cayman headers are now legally sanctioned as the official replacement for failure prone factory headers for Spec racers. If anyone ever has any problems, we will bend over backwards to make things right - that's the policy we founded our company on and we'll never change that. Please use our exhaust components to your fullest capabilities!

If anyone is ever considering an exhaust, we welcome the conversation to discuss your goals and mod path to help you make sure you get exactly what you are looking for, and no less - be it SOUL products or any number of our friends in the industry.

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I'm definitely going to give y'all some consideration for my purchase. I trust first-hand experience here more than just about anywhere else on the web, so if people are happy, that says a lot.
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