My 911S compared to my new Audi E-Tron
12-31-2019, 09:04 AM
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That said, I can see the attraction of remote emission vehicles if you don't travel long distances and don't deal with harsh weather conditions.
12-31-2019, 10:10 AM
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12-31-2019, 02:04 PM
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A good friend of mine has a 2018 S5 sportback and is a huge Audi fan but HATES his car specifically because of the transmission, it’s a weird car for sure as the tranny sure seems confused most times.
btw- I purchased a Bolt last year for my wife and we are total converts now to the EV world , I love driving it and look forward to eventually swapping out my 911 if something non-Tesla pops up that offers a sports car experience. I say non-Tesla only because I hate their entire aesthetic design ethos, that may change hopefully .
btw- I purchased a Bolt last year for my wife and we are total converts now to the EV world , I love driving it and look forward to eventually swapping out my 911 if something non-Tesla pops up that offers a sports car experience. I say non-Tesla only because I hate their entire aesthetic design ethos, that may change hopefully .
02-08-2020, 10:54 AM
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I placed an order for Manhattan Grey E-tron here in my country (Pakistan). Expect to get mine among the first units landing in March 2020.
Even though the charging infrastructure in Lahore (my city) is symbolic, for my driving cycle I expect my 11KW charger (coming with the car) to suffice.
My take on ICE cars and EVs is this: ICE engine cars will eventually occupy the same niche in the market as expensive Swiss timepieces. So they will be expensive to own, require maintenance, very attractive in design, a conversation starter and bring pride and joy to the owner. I imagine telling my neighbor's son in 2040, that this Aston Martin has an in house movement based on the 2007 V8 from Mercedes Benz but with modified parts....and requires fuel that I can only get from the airport.
Cheers!
Even though the charging infrastructure in Lahore (my city) is symbolic, for my driving cycle I expect my 11KW charger (coming with the car) to suffice.
My take on ICE cars and EVs is this: ICE engine cars will eventually occupy the same niche in the market as expensive Swiss timepieces. So they will be expensive to own, require maintenance, very attractive in design, a conversation starter and bring pride and joy to the owner. I imagine telling my neighbor's son in 2040, that this Aston Martin has an in house movement based on the 2007 V8 from Mercedes Benz but with modified parts....and requires fuel that I can only get from the airport.
Cheers!
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02-08-2020, 11:02 AM
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We have an early build Model 3 that has no such issues. I have friends with Model 3's that don't have any issues either. They were overblown by people shorting the stock.
The reality of the matter is this: my previous Cayenne GTS (< 25k miles, $110k MSRP) and my current Carrera 4 GTS (16k miles, $147k MSRP) rattle and squeak from everywhere (A pillars, B pillars, doors, speakers, dash, seats, etc.). My fiancé's Model 3 (30k miles, $46k MSRP) on the other hand is silent despite not benefitting from engine noise to cover up small noises.
That aside, EV are definitely the future and I'm happy Porsche put in a large effort with the Taycan even though the price tag is too inflated for what you get. Curious to see what their self-driving tech will look like because my Cayenne's adaptive cruise control was really, really bad and AutoPilot, for all its small faults, is impressive and continues to get better with software updates.
The reality of the matter is this: my previous Cayenne GTS (< 25k miles, $110k MSRP) and my current Carrera 4 GTS (16k miles, $147k MSRP) rattle and squeak from everywhere (A pillars, B pillars, doors, speakers, dash, seats, etc.). My fiancé's Model 3 (30k miles, $46k MSRP) on the other hand is silent despite not benefitting from engine noise to cover up small noises.
That aside, EV are definitely the future and I'm happy Porsche put in a large effort with the Taycan even though the price tag is too inflated for what you get. Curious to see what their self-driving tech will look like because my Cayenne's adaptive cruise control was really, really bad and AutoPilot, for all its small faults, is impressive and continues to get better with software updates.
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02-08-2020, 03:04 PM
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Interesting to read this thread, and congrats on the new car, drcollie! Had a similar experience with EVs at the end of last year, driving the Taycan for a couple of days—though slightly different logic after driving my 911: "Everyday" cars and trucks an internal combustion seemed pointlessly noisy at every intersection when I returned home (range isn't an issue for us). A quick drive in my 911 confirmed that the Taycan's EV powertrain is no replacement for an ICE powertrain with real character (flat sixes, V12s, performance inline sixes, V8s, I4s, etc), but I may be done with "everyday" ICE. And, given that I prefer PDK on track and concentrate far less on engine noise than where I am going, and how fast, a track day a couple of weeks later had me realize that we could've easily been out there in EVs—charging as quickly as they did in Europe between sessions. So I can easily see an EV daily and maybe even an EV track toy—but only if I had at least one P-51 handy. Taycan is out of my price range, whether by "justifiable" or other logic, and the eTron is a tough sell as a replacement for our current family vehicle at 2x the price for no added utility. I can, however, definitely see an EV of some sort in our future…