PP Film or Ceramic coating...
#32
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The coating protects the film as well as the paint and makes the car easier to clean and maintains the paint's clarity and shine, prevents stains, and it makes cleaning much easier. And it is far from "useless". You will not see me busting my *** waxing my car, introducing swirls, etc. and I use Opti-Rinse in my garage with a waffle towel and I never need a hose & bucket. For the little bit of money if cost for the coating it was a no-brainer for me.
Washing? If you car is properly waxed washing is a breeze. If you introduce swirls when waxing, then you should not be waxing. I have never waxed a car and left swirl marks behind.
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The film is soft, and ceramic is not. It is like hard frosting on a cake, makes no sense.
Washing? If you car is properly waxed washing is a breeze. If you introduce swirls when waxing, then you should not be waxing. I have never waxed a car and left swirl marks behind.
Washing? If you car is properly waxed washing is a breeze. If you introduce swirls when waxing, then you should not be waxing. I have never waxed a car and left swirl marks behind.
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Do what makes you happy.
#35
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I paid 5500 to have the entire car PPF'd and about $30 for a bottle of Hydrosilex. Not worth paying several hundred to protect a plastic wrapper when the DIY cheap stuff works just as well, only not as long. (About 6 months on the daily so far and still shedding the water).
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I meant for a shop to tell the uneducated why it is a good idea and not just that it should be done - I did not get what I have today by wasting it on snake oil yesterday. And if you want to wax your car numerous times over the next several years go for it, and I bet my paint will look much better after several years than yours with 10 times less effort.
#37
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I meant for a shop to tell the uneducated why it is a good idea and not just that it should be done - I did not get what I have today by wasting it on snake oil yesterday. And if you want to wax your car numerous times over the next several years go for it, and I bet my paint will look much better after several years than yours with 10 times less effort.
LOL at snake oil comment, first time I hear it; had to Google it.
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For anyone else's vehicle I recommend ceramic 100%. My wife has a Macan set for delivery at the end of October. It will get full PPF and ceramic just because I don't have enough time to dote on her car as much as I dote on mine.
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Ha! Up until this car I used to wax everyone and over time I would get little swirls, etc. but when I picked up my ordered 911 I took it right to the PPF Shop and had him do it all and I will never wax again after what I have seen and how it performs.
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Stick to Objective Results from Testing and Evaluation
Coatings, when layered to their max, only add up to around 2-3 microns (0.12 mils/thousandths of an inch). PPF is 8 mils thick (~200 microns thick). That means that the max amount of coating on top of the PPF would only equate to 2% of the total protection on the car. For reference, a layer of wax or sealant is so thin that it isn't measurable.
I'm kinda in the same boat. I like the time spent washing and detailing my car. I enjoy trying different products and methods.
For anyone else's vehicle I recommend ceramic 100%. My wife has a Macan set for delivery at the end of October. It will get full PPF and ceramic just because I don't have enough time to dote on her car as much as I dote on mine.
For anyone else's vehicle I recommend ceramic 100%. My wife has a Macan set for delivery at the end of October. It will get full PPF and ceramic just because I don't have enough time to dote on her car as much as I dote on mine.
Swirls and scratches almost always come from how the car is being washed and dried. If you are not washing and drying the car properly, they will appear no matter what kind of protection you use on the car. With PPF on the car, you have a HUGE amount of leeway that you could never get with a wax, sealant, or coating.
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Thanks, I rest my case.
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I paid about $3k for Suntek Pro on the hood, front fenders, bumper, mirrors, door handle pockets, A pillar, a foot up on the sides and bottom in the rear, Opti-Coat Pro on the entire car including wheels off, & paint correction to start.
The coating protects the film as well as the paint and makes the car easier to clean and maintains the paint's clarity and shine, prevents stains, and it makes cleaning much easier. And it is far from "useless". You will not see me busting my *** waxing my car, introducing swirls, etc. and I use Opti-Rinse in my garage with a waffle towel and I never need a hose & bucket. For the little bit of money if cost for the coating it was a no-brainer for me.
The coating protects the film as well as the paint and makes the car easier to clean and maintains the paint's clarity and shine, prevents stains, and it makes cleaning much easier. And it is far from "useless". You will not see me busting my *** waxing my car, introducing swirls, etc. and I use Opti-Rinse in my garage with a waffle towel and I never need a hose & bucket. For the little bit of money if cost for the coating it was a no-brainer for me.
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Where does the dirt go once you wipe it off? You don't loosen dirt and spray heavy stuff off before Opti? If it was swirl proof then every detailer in the world would be using it because its so much easier/tidier etc. To each his own. I'm not here to argue.