Originally Posted by sharkster

This is with stock cats/headers. No other mods. I know the stock one has some drone at lower rpms in higher gears but it's not really any worse with this.

Originally Posted by zunayed

Okay so on my end, I'm going to switch back to the stock cats and try the SW Exhaust by itself. I spent a few more hours driving last night, and a bit in the morning and I honestly think that the exhaust deserves the chance. I know that the obnoxious droning is definitely due to the combo and not the fault of either the SW Exhaust or the SOUL Cats. And I can reconfirm, above 3000rpm the sound is just phenomenal. Depending on how it sounds, I'll end up keeping one and selling the other. Will keep you guys updated.

Cyberbug yours looks fantastic with the coating. Congrats! I vote you try the exhaust by itself first, and then add the headers and see how it changes things. I suspect you'll have better results than me.

Originally Posted by Psorcery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FRPoJIrlI

Dear fellow RLers.. Don't fall for this. This is PURE speculation and opinion by a company focused on selling their product. Muffler delete is just about the worst thing you can do to your car.

Originally Posted by Psorcery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FRPoJIrlI

Dear fellow RLers.. Don't fall for this. This is PURE speculation and opinion by a company focused on selling their product. Muffler delete is just about the worst thing you can do to your car.

Originally Posted by sharkster

Hi Psorcery (I do like the name...), I figured since you are speaking for us I would have to unfortunately barge in a bit and correct some misconceptions about what/how and why in terms of our exhaust. First of all I agree the stock PSE system is indeed close to being a masterpiece. I think for a factory sounding modern turbo car it's a great option indeed. Sounds brilliant IMHO. Having said that we've had several of our customers request a more aggressive sound that maintains the factory style valves/switch functionality all at the same time as being legal in California (and just about any place you can think of) without the possibility of causing check engine lights and/or the necessity for a warranty-breaking tune. So here we are... I'm not sure if you're in the exhaust manufacturing business but I can tell you that 50 bucks in material would buy you about one and a half pre-made flanges in the USA. Even if you were using overseas / slave labor you'd be hard pressed to have the stainless steel, flanges, brackets, twin exhaust valves, hardware, boxes, etc... support/instructions and in small runs for anywhere close to that. The cost to design, support, sell and pay people here is also something you have to consider. Nobody works for free either. We make our stuff here locally in California (albeit a very expensive process and state) but even just shipping any of these parts to our shop would be well over $50. To give you an idea each exhaust valve of this quality is about $130 (you can find much cheaper valves on Ebay etc. but they aren't servicable or as relaible). We don't use slave labor. We pay California labor rates (and everything that encompasses) so that we get what we believe is a higher quality standard that we can indeed put our name on.

No it's not rocket-science I agree. It's just customization, personalization and/or something a few of us like to do. It's not for everyone. We made this because it was requested. I would say your idea of ruining the factory sound/tune/set up by slapping cheap cat bypass pipes (also not legal in any state/country) would still cost more than that $50 but at what cost to the environment? Who has kids and wants to fire up a car that was designed to run clean and with cats to suddenly poison the garage and everyone around you all for 20hp? Maybe it's worth it to some but again it's not legal. It causes CELs and well it's just not part of our philosphy. I understand people have choices and we all don't need to agree and that's fine.

Originally Posted by Randy M

That should do it....

Originally Posted by Cyberbug

For some reason I feel......Not

Originally Posted by Psorcery

Dear fellow RLers.. Don't fall for this. This is PURE speculation and opinion by a company focused on selling their product. Muffler delete is just about the worst thing you can do to your car.