Help! Targa 4 or Targa 4 GTS
#16
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I originally ordered a Targa 4S but after going back to the configurator and playing around with what I really wanted it turned out that the Targa GTS was a better deal for me so I cancelled the order and placed one for the Targa GTS, which I have now. It all depends on what you want so I suggest doing the same thing that I did. I found that paying $4k more got me the added power, which was worth it to get a GTS model that will be worth more in the long run.
I found my new 2017 T4S in summer of 2018 and did get a $15k discount for it being a year old (plus free Xpel), yet it has depreciated $20k retail from my purchase price ($35k trade in) since I took ownership and it only has 3k miles.
If you go to the Porsche locator you can pull up the build sheet on every used car you find so you can calculate the deal you're being offered in terms of discount from what was its original MSRP. It's enlightening.
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Being worth more was something I mentioned for others since the GTS will be worth more, period. But I don't care one way or the other since what I wanted was no where to be found so ordering was my only option - when I pay what I did for a car I am not settling for anything.
#19
You’ll have to check Cam’s stats but I believe the Targa 4 is one of the rarest 991 Carreras you can buy.
#21
Burning Brakes
Consider this:
Lightly optioned base Targa sells for $125k and 2 years later is worth $100k. Reasonable.
Decently optioned Targa GTS costs $165k and 2 years later is worth $120k. Reasonable.
Yes, your car will retail for more in the out years. But you lost $45k in 2 years and the owner of the base Targa lost $25k. Hence my point in that the more optioned the car, the more value it will lose.
None of which has anything to do with the perceived joy each may bring. But a GTS is not automatically more joyous to own/drive than a base. That's entirely up to the individual consumer.
Because there are so many options to consider when buying a Porsche, it's not such an easy choice, and comparing already configured cars is even harder especially for those who may have more difficulty differentiating options, let alone models.
My car's build sheet is 3 pages long. Key to why it's depreciated so much. My GT4 is also highly optioned, yet has depreciated very little. Oh Porsche, thanks for making all this so complex.
#22
Again, this is a very helpful discussion and I appreciate all the thoughtful input you guys are giving.
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
#23
Again, this is a very helpful discussion and I appreciate all the thoughtful input you guys are giving.
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
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#24
Again, this is a very helpful discussion and I appreciate all the thoughtful input you guys are giving.
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
I am leaning towards the GTS (partially due to my wife saying she would rather me pay more for the GTS than drive a red Targa, I love the Carrera Red but I am willing to take advantage of her dislike!).
I apologize that I don’t remember the name of the commenter that said I should pay more for options and make the GTS mine. Unfortunately a stripped down car is more me than a loaded one! I like to buy the best that I can afford. Stepping up to the Targa is a bold move for me.
Regadring used Targas, on Porsche Canada’s website there are 8 used 991.2 Targas available. 3 GTS, 4 4S and one 4. The asking price for the 4 is about 99% of the MSRP, the GTS’ are 99% of MSRP down to 91% of MSRP and the 4S are the same, about 92%. And they way they are optioned they are still thousands more than the new one I am looking to buy. I don’t want to even bother negotiating at those prices! I am getting 3% off the new allocation being built mid May. I hate Canadian dealers!
#25
I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the more options you check that is almost an immediate loss when you sell. The smarter buy is either a slightly used like i just got (2018 Targa 4GTS for 147.5 which had a 175 sticker ) or a low low option targa4GTS.
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Skimping on options for the sake of not getting more when one sells makes no sense to me, which is why I ordered, to get what I wanted. If one is spending that much to begin with why not spend the extra coin and get what one wants?! And I can care less what someone thinks about how I spec'd my car - I did not buy it for the next owner.
#27
Some people could care less how much of a bath they take and others rather wait and save a significant amount. I know that if I was ordering a 2019 which I had an allocation for my build was going to be about 149. And basically most of that was PDK and chalk paint. I had the opportunity to buy a 2018 with 1900 miles with the 175 sticker for 147.5. So I have over $30,000 worth of options that I would have never chosen. Everybody has their own way of looking at this.
#28
I have had an up and down week. The allocation I was looking at was sold while I was away. I admit I was wavering but when I finally said I wanted it it was gone! I was devastated. But today my dealer was able to trade for a May build so I am back on track!
I am sticking with my low option build. I really like the idea of a "basic" car. White, standard interior in leather, manual, LCA, RAS, heated and cooled seats and Bose. I am having a bit of trouble withe the steering wheel. I am told the GT sport steering wheel on the GTS isn't heated or multi function (I need the heat!). The US configurator shows a "heated multi function wheel" but Canada doesn't. Does anyone know if the GT is heated multi function? Or will I have to go with the Carbon Fiber wheel? I have no problem going with the carbon but I would prefer the leather.
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I am sticking with my low option build. I really like the idea of a "basic" car. White, standard interior in leather, manual, LCA, RAS, heated and cooled seats and Bose. I am having a bit of trouble withe the steering wheel. I am told the GT sport steering wheel on the GTS isn't heated or multi function (I need the heat!). The US configurator shows a "heated multi function wheel" but Canada doesn't. Does anyone know if the GT is heated multi function? Or will I have to go with the Carbon Fiber wheel? I have no problem going with the carbon but I would prefer the leather.
Thanks
#29
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I asked about heating on the GT Sport steering wheel (non GTS car) because the option to add this doesn’t exist on the configurator. My dealer told me it was included ... I’ll find out when my car arrives in the next couple weeks. I plan to drive my car in the winter so if the dealer has to swap out the wheel for one that meets my specs, so be it.
#30
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To me, the best car to purchase is the one you like the best that's within your budget. Good luck to the OP! I'm in the same boat BobZ was in - I've looked everywhere and there are no cars available that are exactly what I want so I ordered one. It's a lifetime keeper for me so don't care about resale.