991.2 GTS vs 718 GTS
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991.2 GTS vs 718 GTS
Ok...so I feel a bit pathetic even posting this but here it goes.
I have a 718 GTS and have no real complaints. It’s been a great car for the first 4000 hard driven miles including autoX and HPDE. I bought the car last year and it was an easy decision. Here were some of my inputs:
1. My wife drove the 718 S vs the 911 base at PEC in Atlanta and loved/ preferred the 718.
2. I wanted a track car with a PDK and somehow couldn’t get myself to spend more than $100k for an “ automatic”
3. Somehow I could stomach thrashing a $100k car at autoX and HPDE but not a $140k car.
4. I prefer the exterior styling of the 991.2 but prefer the interior of the 718.
5. Sound wasn’t a big differentiator for me or my wife.
6. I’ve driven both the 718 GTS and 991.2 S on the track, but at different times, and don’t have a clear preference.
7. Really preferred the smaller size of the 718 but having the space of the back seat of the 991 does seem attractive for carrying some larger awkward items, like a guitar. ( Yeah..I know..just tell my wife to stay home and put it in the front seat...)
So, with all that said, I am toying with the idea of swapping for a 991.2 GTS but would go manual and not worry so much about track use ( with rev matching). Money also isn’t the highest priority but it will bug me when I buy track insurance and have to pay more. Anybody up to trying to convince me I should really get the 991.2. I’m stuck in “indecision”? Thanks in advance.
I have a 718 GTS and have no real complaints. It’s been a great car for the first 4000 hard driven miles including autoX and HPDE. I bought the car last year and it was an easy decision. Here were some of my inputs:
1. My wife drove the 718 S vs the 911 base at PEC in Atlanta and loved/ preferred the 718.
2. I wanted a track car with a PDK and somehow couldn’t get myself to spend more than $100k for an “ automatic”
3. Somehow I could stomach thrashing a $100k car at autoX and HPDE but not a $140k car.
4. I prefer the exterior styling of the 991.2 but prefer the interior of the 718.
5. Sound wasn’t a big differentiator for me or my wife.
6. I’ve driven both the 718 GTS and 991.2 S on the track, but at different times, and don’t have a clear preference.
7. Really preferred the smaller size of the 718 but having the space of the back seat of the 991 does seem attractive for carrying some larger awkward items, like a guitar. ( Yeah..I know..just tell my wife to stay home and put it in the front seat...)
So, with all that said, I am toying with the idea of swapping for a 991.2 GTS but would go manual and not worry so much about track use ( with rev matching). Money also isn’t the highest priority but it will bug me when I buy track insurance and have to pay more. Anybody up to trying to convince me I should really get the 991.2. I’m stuck in “indecision”? Thanks in advance.
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I think that if you need a bunch of strangers on the internet to help convince you to buy a car you should just keep what you have.
When I drove my GT3 I knew I had to have it. Nobody had to convince me which way to jump off the fence.
When I drove my GT3 I knew I had to have it. Nobody had to convince me which way to jump off the fence.
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Ditto, when you said you "feel a bit pathetic even posting" you answered your own question. It may be a better idea to drive your car a couple more years and then see how you feel, and you could buy one later as a pre-owned/CPO car.
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I am a 2018 GTS owner coming from a 2015 Cayman S. It was a no-brainer for me because I came from a Corvette,and missed the low end torque. I've never driven a 718, but I'm sure the torque is far better than a 981. The 911 GTS is faster than my C6, but I'd want to drive a GTS to be certain it was worth all the extra money over a 718. IOW I don't think the base or S is a fair comparison.
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The sound and vibration was my reason for changing from a 2017 718 BoxsterS bought new to a similar age used 2017 991.2 Cab 2S in 2018. My criterion was that it should cost no more to upgrade than had I bought a new 911 in the first place. But I failed in the depreciation game so get it right first time. The sound does make a difference to enjoyment even if like me you thought it wasn't important. With my 718 coming from a 981 and 987 before that, I missed that lovely whine in favour of a bass rumble, particularly when joining a motorway off a slip road. You do lose a bit anyway from the 991.1 to the 991.2 with turbos but it still sounds mighty fine. The only downside is that I do miss my pretty little Boxsters, which were true sports cars whereas the 911 is more of a GT and not so much fun on the back roads. If I had my time again when I upgraded to the 2017 718S from a 2014 981 Base, I would have sought out a late model 2016 981 GTS.
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We still have our 2005 987S Boxster. Still love that car. A sound to sound comparison with the 718 never bothered me. Different but that is about it, IMO.
I am trying to keep my wife happy. She has never given me a hard time about buying anything...cars, boats...whatever toys I want, but she does get miffed when I sell stuff. It's kind of a one way street in our house. Seriously, if I sold my 2007 RS4, after having it 11 years her first response would be. "Well..if you didn't want to keep it, why did you buy it in the first place?"
I mentioned getting another car to replace the 718. She was fine but thinks/prefers we( i.e. me) build another garage and keep the 718. I am out of garage space and the desire to have more cars. We have five now and I really am drawing the line about having six. At this point, one car gets about 10k miles/year and the others split 2k/yr. So I need another car like I need a hole in my head.
In any event, I did suggest we get rid of the Boxster and she can have the 718 as her "summer" car but neither one of us really wants to do that.
Maybe I am just getting antsy thinking this may be my last chance to order a 911 with the exact spec I want. Not that the 992 won't be a great car but every generation 911 just seem to get a bit bigger and further in size from what I prefer.
It's funny. When somebody get's online and says they cant\'t decide what car to buy, I am usually the first guy to say.."If you can't decide,then keep shopping until you find something you can't life without" Looks like I need to take my own advice. LOL.
I am trying to keep my wife happy. She has never given me a hard time about buying anything...cars, boats...whatever toys I want, but she does get miffed when I sell stuff. It's kind of a one way street in our house. Seriously, if I sold my 2007 RS4, after having it 11 years her first response would be. "Well..if you didn't want to keep it, why did you buy it in the first place?"
I mentioned getting another car to replace the 718. She was fine but thinks/prefers we( i.e. me) build another garage and keep the 718. I am out of garage space and the desire to have more cars. We have five now and I really am drawing the line about having six. At this point, one car gets about 10k miles/year and the others split 2k/yr. So I need another car like I need a hole in my head.
In any event, I did suggest we get rid of the Boxster and she can have the 718 as her "summer" car but neither one of us really wants to do that.
Maybe I am just getting antsy thinking this may be my last chance to order a 911 with the exact spec I want. Not that the 992 won't be a great car but every generation 911 just seem to get a bit bigger and further in size from what I prefer.
It's funny. When somebody get's online and says they cant\'t decide what car to buy, I am usually the first guy to say.."If you can't decide,then keep shopping until you find something you can't life without" Looks like I need to take my own advice. LOL.
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I am trying to keep my wife happy. ... "Well..if you didn't want to keep it, why did you buy it in the first place?"
... She was fine but thinks/prefers we( i.e. me) build another garage and keep the 718. I am out of garage space and the desire to have more cars. We have five now and I really am drawing the line about having six.
... She was fine but thinks/prefers we( i.e. me) build another garage and keep the 718. I am out of garage space and the desire to have more cars. We have five now and I really am drawing the line about having six.
Sounds like yours and mine must share some genetics when it comes to garage space and cars.
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Lack of garage space for a sixth car sounds like a real first world problem. I continually forget when perusing these forums that we are more than 'two nations separated by a common language'. I got blasted once for even mentioning that fuel economy was a consideration even for a Porsche buyer. With the exception of a few, mainly Russian migrants, most of us here in the UK, business or professionals, have incomes and/or wealth less than two thirds of that of our counterparts in the US. And that's before being taxed to the hilt when we earn it and then again when we spend it. Oh, and fuel is 2.5 times the price for a gallon, presumably why we now buy it in litres. 
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Off topic, but new Porsche prices here are surprisingly similar, even marginally more competitive than in the US, especially the options list. But I think this is to do with the fact that Porsche pricing is about what the market will stand rather than a cost plus standard profit margin calculation. It's interesting that when Little Englanders voted to exit the European Union, the £ dropped about 25% against the Euro (and against the $) but there was no price increase here by Porsche. Maybe I'll buy another on the way back from the Food Bank tomorrow.
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... in the UK, business or professionals, have incomes and/or wealth less than two thirds of that of our counterparts in the US. And that's before being taxed to the hilt when we earn it and then again when we spend it.
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