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The "Unofficial" 991 Sales by Unit Thread

Old 01-18-2019, 08:00 PM
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Did they really sell only 9000 2018 911 cars, and only 6000 2017 911 cars?

I guess the entire car sales are in SUV's and four-door cars?
Old 01-19-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 928 GT R
Is there any chance of pulling the same information going back to 2012?

I have a highly optioned 2012 Carrera 4 GTS that I'm not sure if I should trade on a new TTS or keep in the stable for its potential collectability...
You have 1 of 271 cars. I don't have anything broken down by month but here's the information for model year 2011/2012 GTS cars in the U.S.:

2011:
Carrera GTS - 245 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 314 cars
No C4 cars in 2011

2012:
Carrera GTS - 325 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 222 cars
Carrera 4 GTS - 271 cars
Carrera 4 GTS Cab - 123 cars

Total = 1,500 cars
Old 01-19-2019, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
You have 1 of 271 cars. I don't have anything broken down by month but here's the information for model year 2011/2012 GTS cars in the U.S.:

2011:
Carrera GTS - 245 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 314 cars
No C4 cars in 2011

2012:
Carrera GTS - 325 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 222 cars
Carrera 4 GTS - 271 cars
Carrera 4 GTS Cab - 123 cars

Total = 1,500 cars
Really helpful information - thank you for sharing!
Old 01-19-2019, 04:53 PM
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Here are all of the 2018 911 Production Numbers for the U.S.. I'll try and put all 991.1 together and 991.2 together when I get some additional free time:

Old 01-19-2019, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
Here are all of the 2018 911 Production Numbers for the U.S.. I'll try and put all 991.1 together and 991.2 together when I get some additional free time:

Thanks for the update, Cam.

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Old 01-19-2019, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
You have 1 of 271 cars. I don't have anything broken down by month but here's the information for model year 2011/2012 GTS cars in the U.S.:

2011:
Carrera GTS - 245 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 314 cars
No C4 cars in 2011

2012:
Carrera GTS - 325 cars
Carrera GTS Cab - 222 cars
Carrera 4 GTS - 271 cars
Carrera 4 GTS Cab - 123 cars

Total = 1,500 cars
Thank You! Great and timely information. No wonder they made me such a surprisingly high trade offer.
Old 01-20-2019, 12:47 AM
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Just to be clear, uncommon doesn't equal scarcity, and uncommonness doesn't mean something is necessarily more valuable.

A 911 C4 or Targa 4 is uncommon because few people desired them and few people ordered them, not due to any limitation in supply from Porsche or inability to meet demand.

A 911 R is scarce because many people wanted them, but Porsche made very few of them...

Now if were talking about a 30-year old 911, something that started out uncommon because few chose it (eg: a 911 with the included sunroof deleted) can have a resurgence in interest and they can become more desirable, but that really doesn't apply to 991 generation cars... If you have a model, color, or option combination that is pretty uncommon, it's often just because few wanted (and likely few currently want) that particular model/color/option combo and it will have no value bump do to the uniqueness...

So perhaps in 30 years, folks will be gaga over a 991.1 Targa 4 non-S, non-GTS and pay big bucks for one of the few out there, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Old 01-20-2019, 02:56 AM
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Yes, I would not expect C4 to be worth more. I have a 993 C4 cab and even though there are not that many, it’s not worth more than a C2 cab, and is worth less than a C2 coupe.

Still, a C4 or C4 cab is a great daily. My dealer has a used 991.2 C4 cab with 7MT and I keep thinking it would be a great all year including snow car.
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Just to be clear, uncommon doesn't equal scarcity, and uncommeness doesn't mean something is necessarily more valuable.

A C4 or Targa 4 is uncommon because few people desired them and few people ordered them, not due to any limitation in supply from Porsche or inability to meet demand.
Is this a response to me? I'm not sure since I didn't mention scarcity or value.

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Old 01-20-2019, 09:59 AM
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On a somewhat-related note -- moments after making my last post, I read on the GT3 forum that a 911R just hammered in Scottsdale at $250K (with 12% juice: $280K). Amazing how much the prices have come down in the last year.
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Glad you like the stats! I'll pull 2017 numbers today and post them up.

I previously owned this gorgeous dark metallic blue 2017 C4...miss the color and winter handling but love my T.


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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
Glad you like the stats! I'll pull 2017 numbers today and post them up.

I previously owned this gorgeous dark metallic blue 2017 C4...miss the color and winter handling but love my T.
You can't go wrong with a T. And with the 992 now here, this is all the more evident.

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Old 01-20-2019, 11:26 AM
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Nice to see Winnipeg..would love to have your DBM now, exactly the unicorn I am looking for! Great colour.


Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
Glad you like the stats! I'll pull 2017 numbers today and post them up.

I previously owned this gorgeous dark metallic blue 2017 C4...miss the color and winter handling but love my T.

Old 01-20-2019, 11:37 AM
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OK folks here are the 2017 through to today's 2019 Porsche 991.2 statistics for the U.S.

Old 01-20-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
OK folks here are the 2017 through to today's 2019 Porsche 991.2 statistics for the U.S.

Thanks for posting this. So the total US 991.2...

Carrera 4 = 144
Carrera 4S = 1,766
Carrera 4 GTS = 254

That's pretty interesting!

Also noteworthy is how many GT3s and GT3 RS's have landed here so far. PAG really cranked those out this time around, which I think is a good thing!

Carrera T production stayed pretty low. I own both a GT3 and a T and if you'd told me at the outset that the GT3 would be the far more common car, I'd have laughed my head off.

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