No I don't think anybody would cover money shifts

 

 

Why on earth would anyone want to enter a corner with your engine at redline? Am I misunderstanding something? I've been to more than a few DE trackdays, and none of the instructors ever shared this. Maybe they didn't think I was ready for that technique?

 

Fast in, slow out, they say!

 

 

Interesting thought. I like to know what the dealer says after returning a leased car with the underlying over-rev condition.

 

Excellent point! I'd never really considered this. Rarely do I lease cars (or consider leases for purchase) but it would be interesting to get a dealer's perspective. I'll have to call my salesman and see if he has an opinion!

 

 

 

Answer to your question is: I have never heard of insurance covering a money shift.

And, of course, a missed shift can result in an engine failure on the spot or down the road. Jerry Woods, a respected engine builder here in the Bay Area, was asked to testify or be deposed on this very subject, and iirc, he said that over-revving an engine can stretch the rod bolts—how much they stretch dictates how much torque value they use, and thus when they are likely to fail. Thing is, they're in there...

Which is why over-rev reports are a beautiful thing.

As to the idea that someone is pussyfooting a Porsche if they don't have any over-revs, that's silly. When I asked for the report before selling my GT4 at 14,700 miles, the service advisor said, "You never go to redline, do you?" when he handed over a report with zero over-revs in all ranges. I looked at him and said, "Oh, I go to redline...a LOT!" Inwardly, I was cringing a bit while waiting for the report, as I let a number of (good) drivers try the car on back roads and a race track...sometimes without me in it. One was a current factory driver, another an R&T writer, but some of the others were just friends I trust. Turns out all of them were not only quick but careful, too.

I'd probably buy a car with Range 0 or Range 1 over-revs as long as they were relatively few and far between. I'd think hard about a car I really liked with Range 2 or 3 over-revs. Range 5-6? Unless the price included a discount = a new engine, installed, I'd let someone else take the risk.

 

Does anyone here have experience with an actual non-hypothetical 911 that survived the money shift and its immediate aftermath and 20+ hours later broke due to those over revs? I've come across countless examples of cars with ranges 4/5/6 running strong, passing PPIs, living happily ever after (e.g., the shift happened 400 hours ago or something), but never once heard of somebody buying a car with old 5/6 revs and having it break due to them. You'd think on the internet where everyone complains about their broken cars you'd see that, right...?

 

 

Good info to know...thanks gent. Great posts for those following.

 

Agreed -- if the over revs happened many hours ago you're good. I've heard Porsche's threshold is 50 hours ago for warranty purposes, as another poster mentioned.

 

But then the problem comes when you try to sell the car to the next buyer. They balk and move on to the next car due to these concerns, regardless of hours elapsed. If you are keeping the car for a very long time maybe...