What does it take for 991.2 GTS to Match GT3
06-17-2018, 07:49 PM
#61
Now that I think about it, if you’re only worried about lap times, just disconnect one of the GT3’s spark plugs.
There you have it, the scientifically cheapest, easiest, and simplest way to match a GTS and GT3. You’re welcome.
I’m officially the most helpful person on the forum.
There you have it, the scientifically cheapest, easiest, and simplest way to match a GTS and GT3. You’re welcome.
I’m officially the most helpful person on the forum.
06-17-2018, 07:54 PM
#63
If we are talking drivers of the same skill level, it will depend on the skill level.
If both drivers are equally “un-skilled” drivers then I think a GTS times will be comparable or maybe even surpass (ie, lower) those of the GT3 because the GTS is an easier car to drive around a track for a beginner.
If, however, both drivers are adabced or intermediate group drivers, then I think the GT3 will be a much more obvious winner because a skilled driver can better and more easily exploit the chassis setup and the more aggressive suspension of the GT3.
If both drivers are equally “un-skilled” drivers then I think a GTS times will be comparable or maybe even surpass (ie, lower) those of the GT3 because the GTS is an easier car to drive around a track for a beginner.
If, however, both drivers are adabced or intermediate group drivers, then I think the GT3 will be a much more obvious winner because a skilled driver can better and more easily exploit the chassis setup and the more aggressive suspension of the GT3.
06-17-2018, 08:39 PM
#65
Good point... after all Porsche is building both cars at the same time so if one were better at everything, they wouldn’t have to waste money developing both.
06-17-2018, 09:05 PM
#66
This is the answer you will always get from people that know what they are talking about and this is the answer you will get from every track instructor worth his salt.
06-17-2018, 09:12 PM
#67
Why? the OP wanted know how to beat his buddy. The easiest way to do this is by becoming a better driver and the easiest way to become a better driver is through high performance driver training. Driver training is a "modification" as it modifies a drivers behaviours and timing. This makes you both safer and faster and is transferable.
This is the answer you will always get from people that know what they are talking about and this is the answer you will get from every track instructor worth his salt.
This is the answer you will always get from people that know what they are talking about and this is the answer you will get from every track instructor worth his salt.
OP wanted to know which mods he can perform on his GTS to make it faster than his buddies GT3 at both of their current driving skills.
Read it again.
06-17-2018, 09:25 PM
#68
They are very close in bot categories.
Add a tune to the GTS, and there is a good chance it will be faster in a straight line and very close top speed.
Nothing he does will make it red line at 9000.
06-17-2018, 09:27 PM
#69
Hmm the problem with that argument is that since we don’t know what their current skill levels are, it is quite possible that literally nothing in the world would do that if his driving skills at the weak link.
06-17-2018, 10:02 PM
#70
A GTS with a tune would wax any GT3 in any type of straight line pull, especially at top speed. There are tuners out there working and finding more power beyond the GTS redline. Obviously since it's in its infant stages they don't know whether or not it's going to last. Revving to 9k may result in a spun bearing.. Then again.. 9000rpms has nothing to do with this debate.
Here's the recipe.
-Upgraded brakes if you don't have PCCB.
-Same tire spec as GT3
-Mild tune(probably not even necessary)
-Aero
-Upgraded control arms to dial in a proper suspension setup. You can most likely slap on GT3 suspension bits to keep it OEM.
Please inform me of any secret sauce the GT3 has that I'm unaware of.
06-17-2018, 10:31 PM
#71
Um... it’s not that complicated. I pointed out just add a tune.
But the biggest difference is the GT3 is NA that redlines at 9000 rpm. Nothing you do to a GTS will make it drive like a GT3.
increase the redline on TT? Why do you think the redline is where it’s at? I don’t need a tune to exceed the redline, but I can destroy my engine.
i will state again... the biggest difference is a NA engine that performs different then a smaller TT. And I’m not talking about the sound.
But the biggest difference is the GT3 is NA that redlines at 9000 rpm. Nothing you do to a GTS will make it drive like a GT3.
increase the redline on TT? Why do you think the redline is where it’s at? I don’t need a tune to exceed the redline, but I can destroy my engine.
i will state again... the biggest difference is a NA engine that performs different then a smaller TT. And I’m not talking about the sound.
06-17-2018, 10:45 PM
#73
I'm not saying don't put the seat time in or don't invest in your driving skills - I'm just saying let people be in modification threads - the OP might never attend a single track day, but might still have fun with his car, "passing" his friend's GT3 in some context or another.
I find this whole "be a better driver first" thing a bit too much that's all, not denying there's a lot of truth to it but, it's being repeated by everyone like a broken record, 90% of these people don't even know how to drive themselves - just not adding value to these threads in any way IMHO.
06-17-2018, 11:23 PM
#74
Well for one thing it has a true dry sump with a separate pressurized oil reservoir so extended track use won't begin to wear out your internals with the integrated solution at the high-g loads that those stickier tires are capable of.
The GTS won't have problems running a few track days here and there, but it's just not designed for regular track use.
The GTS won't have problems running a few track days here and there, but it's just not designed for regular track use.
06-17-2018, 11:25 PM
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