530WHP 991.2 BOOSTADDICT STAGE 1 REVIEW
05-28-2018 | 06:50 PM
#46
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After enduring sticky's obnoxious posts here, not too surprising to hear how easy he'd screw someone. Never trust a guy who gloats about how great he is and how he can do this and do that. OP, hope you get it all sorted out and get your car fixed right and got your money back.
05-28-2018 | 06:50 PM
#47
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I'm sorry to see this mess (and it is a mess). I'll agree with most here - put the car back to stock (if you can). It's a $$ lesson.
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I suspect that the engineers at Porsche who know something about the software on these cars would warn you off of flashing the ECU. This isn't like the old days (90s) where only a few static curves controlled timing and fuel-air ratios; there are now myriad feedback loops and real-time adjustments to combustion charges based on load and sensors. I'm not sure anyone outside of Porsche could even reliably alter the ECU software without causing problems somewhere in the software. Sure, a clever person can figure out where a few things are in the code and make adjustments - but without the original source (which I'd be surprised if Porsche shares) - what are the chances there are no side effects?
If you want 530 whp, buy a Turbo/Turbo S. That's why they make 'em :-)
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I suspect that the engineers at Porsche who know something about the software on these cars would warn you off of flashing the ECU. This isn't like the old days (90s) where only a few static curves controlled timing and fuel-air ratios; there are now myriad feedback loops and real-time adjustments to combustion charges based on load and sensors. I'm not sure anyone outside of Porsche could even reliably alter the ECU software without causing problems somewhere in the software. Sure, a clever person can figure out where a few things are in the code and make adjustments - but without the original source (which I'd be surprised if Porsche shares) - what are the chances there are no side effects?
If you want 530 whp, buy a Turbo/Turbo S. That's why they make 'em :-)
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Thankfully, I haven't caught this bug maybe because I am older and in my fifties. My C4S with its 420 measly hp is so damn fast already and so balanced. I would hate to mess with its balance in pursuit of more power. I am hesitant to even swap out the standard exhaust with an aftermarket one not only becasue of the cost but also because I don't want to deal with emissions isssues and CELs. To each their won. The OP spent a bunch of money and they messed up his car. Hopefully, they can return it stock and refund most of his money.
05-28-2018 | 07:36 PM
#48
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Any Cobb tuned car is experimental and under development as there hasn't been a single tune offered to the public yet. I would think that anyone running a Cobb tune would have no problem just going back to Cobb to have them clear up any CEL's. Sorry, but I have to call bull**** on that one..
Feel free to shut me up, prove me wrong and clear up any misinformation by letting the owner of the Cobb tuned car come on here and show us some proof.. $100 via PayPal says it won't happen, so now you have even more incentive to prove it.
Feel free to shut me up, prove me wrong and clear up any misinformation by letting the owner of the Cobb tuned car come on here and show us some proof.. $100 via PayPal says it won't happen, so now you have even more incentive to prove it.
05-28-2018 | 07:41 PM
#49
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Phone call won't show the AP connected to the car or the CEL light or the actual car in question. So, no a phone call from a random stranger telling me they have a CEL on a Cobb tune won't even remotely suffice.
05-28-2018 | 07:48 PM
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Some interesting points. First off I agree......991.1's are slow. : ) It has addressed a question I was wanting to ask. The plug gap issue. Every other turbo car I have tuned, it was recommended that I put fresh, gapped down plugs in it, when increasing boost. So that is 100% normal and expected. I have seen plenty of M4's have issues because they never did this, and then they were perfect, after they did this. So I did the plugs first and never had a single issue.
(For comedy purposes, think of the gap in the plug is too wide, and the extra boost blows the spark out, like a candle on a birthday cake.)
I am waiting for COBB. I will do the plugs before the COBB also.
Gintanni have been blowing up super charged BMW's for many years. LOL. (They are not a no name brand. They do tend to be out on the bleeding edge of testing, and that's where things go bad. Early adopters beware.)
The OP is an early adopter. He has to accept delays. They will be able to fix your issues. But it will take time. I don't feel this is a reflection on Sticky, or even Ginatni, as this is the bleeding edge. The first few will have teething problems.
Why else do you think the majority of us wait for COBB. Do you think we like to wait? NO, I am impatient. I want my COBB NOW!!! But I know it is better to let the bugs be worked out first.
(For comedy purposes, think of the gap in the plug is too wide, and the extra boost blows the spark out, like a candle on a birthday cake.)
I am waiting for COBB. I will do the plugs before the COBB also.
Gintanni have been blowing up super charged BMW's for many years. LOL. (They are not a no name brand. They do tend to be out on the bleeding edge of testing, and that's where things go bad. Early adopters beware.)
The OP is an early adopter. He has to accept delays. They will be able to fix your issues. But it will take time. I don't feel this is a reflection on Sticky, or even Ginatni, as this is the bleeding edge. The first few will have teething problems.
Why else do you think the majority of us wait for COBB. Do you think we like to wait? NO, I am impatient. I want my COBB NOW!!! But I know it is better to let the bugs be worked out first.
05-28-2018 | 07:49 PM
#53
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Post any evidence right here. If the forum members deem it as legit you have my word $100 will be in your account.
And if the Forum feels its BS then please make sure you have $100 ready to go. I could use those vinyl headlight ring covers from KI....
And if the Forum feels its BS then please make sure you have $100 ready to go. I could use those vinyl headlight ring covers from KI....
05-28-2018 | 07:55 PM
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I love how sticky keeps coming back to Rennlist. I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to have a chance to respond.
I run a custom pro-tune on my Accessport, had an unsurprising CEL due to headers, went back to my tuner, he cleared that light permanently - it should be as simple as that.
That car seems to have larger issues where the file you guys put on there doesn't seem to be for that car. There are so many tables with these modern 991s these days, one for sport, one for sport plus, another for on-cam off-cam etc, it's endless. Really takes some time & a lot of logging to properly tune one of these cars - it would've been a coincidence if the Gintani tune worked on his car.
What do you mean exactly by "breaking a car by street racing" - do you mean he stepped on the gas pedal? With the tune on?
I run a custom pro-tune on my Accessport, had an unsurprising CEL due to headers, went back to my tuner, he cleared that light permanently - it should be as simple as that.
That car seems to have larger issues where the file you guys put on there doesn't seem to be for that car. There are so many tables with these modern 991s these days, one for sport, one for sport plus, another for on-cam off-cam etc, it's endless. Really takes some time & a lot of logging to properly tune one of these cars - it would've been a coincidence if the Gintani tune worked on his car.
What do you mean exactly by "breaking a car by street racing" - do you mean he stepped on the gas pedal? With the tune on?
05-28-2018 | 07:56 PM
#55
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I spent a lot on my car, but I still have a little left to pay for my own covers, but thanks for the offer.
I am really much more interested in knowing why anyone with a Cobb Tuned car would go to Gitani to clear a CEL..
Its worth $100 to me just to hear the backstory on this, but something tells my my Benjamin aint going anywhere...
I am really much more interested in knowing why anyone with a Cobb Tuned car would go to Gitani to clear a CEL..
Its worth $100 to me just to hear the backstory on this, but something tells my my Benjamin aint going anywhere...
05-28-2018 | 07:59 PM
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I spent a lot on my car, but I still have a little left to pay for my own covers, but thanks for the offer.
I am really much more interested in knowing why anyone with a Cobb Tuned car would go to Gitani to clear a CEL..
Its worth $100 to me just to hear the backstory on this, but something tells my my Benjamin aint going anywhere...
I am really much more interested in knowing why anyone with a Cobb Tuned car would go to Gitani to clear a CEL..
Its worth $100 to me just to hear the backstory on this, but something tells my my Benjamin aint going anywhere...
05-28-2018 | 08:06 PM
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You might have missed all his posts about how great the car was running and how strong it pulled but he ran into some sort of misfire. He was sent plugs for free. Instead of waiting for plugs he kept beating on the car street racing it and likely overreved or hit the limiter so hard as to cause an issue with the valvetrain.
Racing tuned cars in a straight-line is such a pointless exercise anyways.
05-28-2018 | 08:10 PM
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Very interesting to see people so quick to judge without the details and throwing Sticky under the bus simply believing Soler. Here is the truth: https://www.****************/showthre...dict-turbo-kit
First of all, it's not his car. It's his dad's car. Only one person correctly surmised there was an issue before the turbo kit due to him street racing it with less than 900 miles.
Furthermore, he conveniently left out Sticky offered to give him a full refund THREE TIMES. Soler declined to go street racing with daddy's Porsche.
Soler also said he had no money to diagnose the issue. Why? Daddy's car. Sticky paid out of pocket for new plugs and offered to pay out of pocket for any ecu revisions and diagnostics. He said first the car needed to be diagnosed to see what is wrong as it seems to be hardware related.
Sticky offered to pay for an AP which is coming out shortly but spoiled impatient brat Soler won't wait. He wants to keep street racing. Look at the text messages where Sticky pleads with him to stop street racing until he finds out what is wrong with the car.
Soler expected Sticky to pay for his parts like an exhaust. He's trying to extort free parts because he has no money.
Wow are people quick to issue blame. The truth is two cars are running this turbo kit without issue and three companies have now blacklisted Soler due to his antics and childish behavior. You can't help someone who won't listen.
By the way, haven't several people on this forum and others done business with Sticky? Hasn't he been in business almost a decade? Weird that it's with this kid playing with daddy's car who is trying to get free parts that he is suddenly a 'scammer' isn't it? Why would big companies even do business with him if he was a scammer? Uh, because he isn't.
So on one hand we have multiple 991.2 cars running strong with a top end turbo kit (look into who makes it!) and in the other an impatient kid street racing dad's car across Florida. Gee I wonder what went wrong.
First of all, it's not his car. It's his dad's car. Only one person correctly surmised there was an issue before the turbo kit due to him street racing it with less than 900 miles.
Furthermore, he conveniently left out Sticky offered to give him a full refund THREE TIMES. Soler declined to go street racing with daddy's Porsche.
Soler also said he had no money to diagnose the issue. Why? Daddy's car. Sticky paid out of pocket for new plugs and offered to pay out of pocket for any ecu revisions and diagnostics. He said first the car needed to be diagnosed to see what is wrong as it seems to be hardware related.
Sticky offered to pay for an AP which is coming out shortly but spoiled impatient brat Soler won't wait. He wants to keep street racing. Look at the text messages where Sticky pleads with him to stop street racing until he finds out what is wrong with the car.
Soler expected Sticky to pay for his parts like an exhaust. He's trying to extort free parts because he has no money.
Wow are people quick to issue blame. The truth is two cars are running this turbo kit without issue and three companies have now blacklisted Soler due to his antics and childish behavior. You can't help someone who won't listen.
By the way, haven't several people on this forum and others done business with Sticky? Hasn't he been in business almost a decade? Weird that it's with this kid playing with daddy's car who is trying to get free parts that he is suddenly a 'scammer' isn't it? Why would big companies even do business with him if he was a scammer? Uh, because he isn't.
So on one hand we have multiple 991.2 cars running strong with a top end turbo kit (look into who makes it!) and in the other an impatient kid street racing dad's car across Florida. Gee I wonder what went wrong.
05-28-2018 | 08:13 PM
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Any Cobb tuned car is experimental and under development as there hasn't been a single tune offered to the public yet. I would think that anyone running a Cobb tune would have no problem just going back to Cobb to have them clear up any CEL's. Sorry, but I have to call bull**** on that one..
Feel free to shut me up, prove me wrong and clear up any misinformation by letting the owner of the Cobb tuned car come on here and show us some proof.. $100 via PayPal says it won't happen, so now you have even more incentive to prove it.
Feel free to shut me up, prove me wrong and clear up any misinformation by letting the owner of the Cobb tuned car come on here and show us some proof.. $100 via PayPal says it won't happen, so now you have even more incentive to prove it.
So he is not really going to Gintani to delete the cell. He is getting acustom tune to prevent it constnatly coming back.