Speeding Ticket Chicago
03-25-2018, 06:19 PM
#47
Nordschleife Master
Seems like a decent outcome. Did he get points?
$400 is nothing compared to jail time.
$400 is nothing compared to jail time.
03-25-2018, 06:35 PM
#48
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I am usualy near the VA-DC-MD area, you do not speed here (VA for sure). I know so many people are speeding in the NOVA area - when you get busted here, it is bad period. I am always at the speed limit and yes, I have the car and everyone is looking and thinking "why are you driving speed limit?" (car does attract attention at times from local LEOs, better just drive peacefully and be relaxed).
For the OP, get a good lawyer. You pay for quality do not skimp out on this. You don't have to go super expensive but super cheap attorneys is a big no-no.
For the OP, get a good lawyer. You pay for quality do not skimp out on this. You don't have to go super expensive but super cheap attorneys is a big no-no.
03-25-2018, 06:35 PM
#49
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I live in Chicagoland and have had many tickets in my life. I have almost always not gotten an attorney and just plead guilty and begged for supervision and/or an online class. I’m not saying “don’t get an attorney,” but when you do, you pay the state and the attorney, rather than just the state.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
03-25-2018, 06:38 PM
#50
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I live in Chicagoland and have had many tickets in my life. I have almost always not gotten an attorney and just plead guilty and begged for supervision and/or an online class. I’m not saying “don’t get an attorney,” but when you do, you pay the state and the attorney, rather than just the state.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
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03-25-2018, 06:46 PM
#52
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... interesting story from Jalopnik's Patrick George on just how bad this can go in Virginia, like Rick pointed out in an earlier post:
https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-...-in-1613604053
https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-...-in-1613604053
03-25-2018, 07:22 PM
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03-25-2018, 08:35 PM
#54
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The lawyer thought he might get the choice between community service and supervision but ultimately only supervision was offered.
My understanding is no tickets for the next four months and nothing will appear on his record.
03-25-2018, 09:27 PM
#55
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Update: My buddy hired an attorney that specializes in these cases who was able to get his court date moved up by over a month. The final result was a $400 fine and 4 months supervision, plus attorney fee. He had no previous record.
Pretty good outcome in my opinion. Next up he's buying a good radar detector.
Pretty good outcome in my opinion. Next up he's buying a good radar detector.
One tiny thing he wants to find out.
Did the ticket get reduced to a normal moving violation or did it stay a class B misdemeanor?
The reason it matters is that my understanding is that once you've had supervision on a class A or B, you are not eligible again.
Just something he needs to know for the future.
Also, insurance will not find out but it does stay on his court transcript.
So, he does need to try to avoid one of these types of tickets again.
If it got reduced to a normal moving violation, ignore the above and speed on😁
03-25-2018, 09:32 PM
#56
Nordschleife Master
Great news for him.
One tiny thing he wants to find out.
Did the ticket get reduced to a normal moving violation or did it stay a class B misdemeanor?
The reason it matters is that my understanding is that once you've had supervision on a class A or B, you are not eligible again.
Just something he needs to know for the future.
Also, insurance will not find out but it does stay on his court transcript.
So, he does need to try to avoid one of these types of tickets again.
If it got reduced to a normal moving violation, ignore the above and speed on😁
One tiny thing he wants to find out.
Did the ticket get reduced to a normal moving violation or did it stay a class B misdemeanor?
The reason it matters is that my understanding is that once you've had supervision on a class A or B, you are not eligible again.
Just something he needs to know for the future.
Also, insurance will not find out but it does stay on his court transcript.
So, he does need to try to avoid one of these types of tickets again.
If it got reduced to a normal moving violation, ignore the above and speed on😁
03-26-2018, 09:58 AM
#57
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I live in Chicagoland and have had many tickets in my life. I have almost always not gotten an attorney and just plead guilty and begged for supervision and/or an online class. I’m not saying “don’t get an attorney,” but when you do, you pay the state and the attorney, rather than just the state.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
While it’s true that you must keep clean during supervision, I’ve found that it’s not that hard to do, and it used to be ‘county-by-county’ so that if you got supervision in one county or state, they wouldn’t necessarily know if you got nabbed again.
I also don’t believe in radar detectors. Well, I used to believe in them and relied on them, but my ticket rate declines considerably when I just use my eyes and ears (listening for airplanes) instead.
In general, in chicagoland, I find you can drive pretty fast and not get nabbed due to the large numbers of cars. I’m also one of the few that slow down for construction zones and road workers.
If you have an attorney, you usually do not even need to go to court as they can make the appearance for you AND if you do need to go, you are called first - much better if you're in Cook County Court where there are 200 people sitting in the court room.
03-26-2018, 11:13 AM
#58
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I disagree in this case as he got a Class B Misdemeanor (Criminal Ticket) - not a simple moving violation.
If you have an attorney, you usually do not even need to go to court as they can make the appearance for you AND if you do need to go, you are called first - much better if you're in Cook County Court where there are 200 people sitting in the court room.
If you have an attorney, you usually do not even need to go to court as they can make the appearance for you AND if you do need to go, you are called first - much better if you're in Cook County Court where there are 200 people sitting in the court room.
I think there’s an art to getting caught. That’s right, I said getting caught, not getting away. The way I see it, the cop wants a ticket, and the state needs money, so getting caught is not the issue, it’s how you get caught. To be honest, most cops will not write you up for a ticket that’s 30 over. Even on 290 or 90/94 when the speed limit drops to 55mph, traffic is often running 80-85mph, which is still not 30-over. Even if I was running 90-95 on that road, most cops will still write up something like 83. So I’ve begged, pleaded, or just respectfully asked cops please don’t write me up if as my record is clean and I “was just being stupid.”
03-26-2018, 11:22 AM
#59
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03-26-2018, 11:44 AM
#60
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Yeah, I guess you are right. While I have gotten a lot of speeding trickets in my life, none have been a Class B misdemeanors.
I think there’s an art to getting caught. That’s right, I said getting caught, not getting away. The way I see it, the cop wants a ticket, and the state needs money, so getting caught is not the issue, it’s how you get caught. To be honest, most cops will not write you up for a ticket that’s 30 over. Even on 290 or 90/94 when the speed limit drops to 55mph, traffic is often running 80-85mph, which is still not 30-over. Even if I was running 90-95 on that road, most cops will still write up something like 83. So I’ve begged, pleaded, or just respectfully asked cops please don’t write me up if as my record is clean and I “was just being stupid.”
Agreed - usually they reduce the speed. It's when they don't you need a lawyer
