718 Spyder to get GT3 engine!
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Originally Posted by K-A
Seriously. While lots of GT4 owners track their cars, I have yet to hear of anyone buying it because of how it performs in competitive racing. In fact all GT cars are about the visceral feel and experience, hence why Porsche maintains N/A for reasons of pure driver enjoyment, sound, rev capability, linear band and throttle response (their literal words). They could easily stick a twin turbo in there and make gobs of power, but thatÂ’s not the point. And the hyped up GT car sales, exceeding since Carreras went turbo (GT3Â’s outsold all other .2Â’s combined in Sept and Oct) speaks as to the market rewarding Porsche for this.
We have plenty of torquey healthy powered turbo 911Â’s and 718Â’s, the GT3 and 4 will hopefully remain driver soul to car soul connection over all else.
Porsche probably could stick an N/A 3.4 with 390 HP and theyÂ’ll sell every one they can make, with demand so far outstripping supply that like every GT car, now more than ever, markups will be hefty and owners will be able to sell them for MSRP or over for years to come (just like the 981 GT4). ThereÂ’s a reason for that.
We have plenty of torquey healthy powered turbo 911Â’s and 718Â’s, the GT3 and 4 will hopefully remain driver soul to car soul connection over all else.
Porsche probably could stick an N/A 3.4 with 390 HP and theyÂ’ll sell every one they can make, with demand so far outstripping supply that like every GT car, now more than ever, markups will be hefty and owners will be able to sell them for MSRP or over for years to come (just like the 981 GT4). ThereÂ’s a reason for that.
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The original intent of GT4 competition was it was going to be a low cost motorsport option - this has proven not to be the case. Doing it on the cheap for a single vehicle would cost around 250k pa for an officially sanctioned 10 round comp and it probably wouldn't be competitive.
GT cars are about motorsport - some so called purists may buy them, but the intent is motorsport. Porsche know and understand that around 70% of all GT cars are tracked and about 15% of them are run in accredited competition with accredited drivers (excluding Cup cars).
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I think all Porsche sports cars need to go on a combined size and weight diet - however, this will come with a price tag.
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To be honest, the whole Porsche's getting big and fat is a bit overblown...
Here's a review of the 997.2 GTS, they measured the curb weight at 3430
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...pe-test-review
Here's the 2017 991.2 GTS, and with all the "Turbo plumbing" measured the curb weight at 3335. Almost 100 pounds lighter.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
It is about 4 inches longer, but that's all in the wheelbase.
Here's a review of the 997.2 GTS, they measured the curb weight at 3430
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...pe-test-review
Here's the 2017 991.2 GTS, and with all the "Turbo plumbing" measured the curb weight at 3335. Almost 100 pounds lighter.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
It is about 4 inches longer, but that's all in the wheelbase.
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To be honest, the whole Porsche's getting big and fat is a bit overblown...
Here's a review of the 997.2 GTS, they measured the curb weight at 3430
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...pe-test-review
Here's the 2017 991.2 GTS, and with all the "Turbo plumbing" measured the curb weight at 3335. Almost 100 pounds lighter.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
It is about 4 inches longer, but that's all in the wheelbase.
Here's a review of the 997.2 GTS, they measured the curb weight at 3430
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...pe-test-review
Here's the 2017 991.2 GTS, and with all the "Turbo plumbing" measured the curb weight at 3335. Almost 100 pounds lighter.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
It is about 4 inches longer, but that's all in the wheelbase.
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When 991.1’s came out, they advertised front and center how it was lighter than the 997. Which probably puts the .2’s standard weight somewhere around the 997. Not exactly “gaining weight” if we look at it like that, considering 997’s came out over 10 years ago.
Still, I’d certainly accept my car being lighter. But a .1 C2 is pretty light to modern standards and speaking for my own car, it does feel it. Not sure how much a 718 Boxster S weighs, but it felt like a go-kart pocket rocket to me.
Still, I’d certainly accept my car being lighter. But a .1 C2 is pretty light to modern standards and speaking for my own car, it does feel it. Not sure how much a 718 Boxster S weighs, but it felt like a go-kart pocket rocket to me.
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That would be one sleek 991 and most of us would easily fit in such a car.