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subshooter 11-21-2017 09:54 PM

718 Spyder to get GT3 engine!
 
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...1-gt3-flat-six

“Natural aspiration is one of our main USPs,” Andreas Preuninger, head of GT car development at Porsche told Autocar earlier this year. “At Motorsport, we think we can achieve throttle response and immediacy a little bit better with an atmospheric high-revving engine than any kind of turbo.”

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Rezus 11-21-2017 10:18 PM

Not sure why anyone thinks they would use the GT3 engine in Spyder, it ain't gonna happen. Maybe the engine out of 991.1 GTS could fit the bill

subshooter 11-21-2017 10:19 PM

I'm going through my financials right now to see how bad it would be to trade in my 2018 991.2 and 2014 981S for this beast. Man do I want a NA Boxster with a GT3 engine. Wow!

pfan 11-21-2017 10:19 PM

And they're likely all spoken for by the 918 owners mafia. :grr:

pfan 11-21-2017 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by subshooter (Post 14620587)
I'm going through my financials right now to see how bad it would be to trade in my 2018 991.2 and 2014 981S for this beast. Man do I want a NA Boxster with a GT3 engine. Wow!

How many functioning kidneys do you currently have? :p

subshooter 11-21-2017 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rezus (Post 14620584)
Not sure why anyone thinks they would use the GT3 engine in Spyder, it ain't gonna happen. Maybe the engine out of 991.1 GTS could fit the bill

Yeah, they said that when the 981 GT4/Spyder came out..... "there is no way they would put a 911S engine in that car"....and then BOOM! Seriously, Porsche is going to make the best out of that platform. The GT3 engine in the GT4/Spyder has been rumored for over a year. I understand that they couldn't fit the turbos into the engine compartment anyway but maybe a 4.0L. I'm going to go bankrupt.

Bemo 11-21-2017 10:25 PM

Long live NA engines! Period.

Z356 11-21-2017 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by subshooter (Post 14620511)
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...1-gt3-flat-six

“Natural aspiration is one of our main USPs,”
Andreas Preuninger, head of GT car development
at Porsche told Autocar earlier this year
.
“At Motorsport, we think we can achieve
throttle response and immediacy a little bit
better with an atmospheric high-revving
engine than any kind of turbo.”

Frankly, that it's a bit of 'sloppy' reporting
by Autocar. They should have made clear
that, up to now, the Boxster Spyder has
NOT been a Porsche gt product developed
by Andreas Preuninger's Porsche Motorsport
department! And it's not expected that the
718 version of the Spyder will be the responsibility
of Andreas Preuninger's Motorsports department
either!

So the fact that the 718's Spyder will have a
naturally aspirated engine (expected to be
the same as Preuninger's upcoming 718 gt4
)
was confirmed not by Andreas Preuninger
but by Dr. Oliver Blume at the PCA Parade
in Spokane this past July. Take that to the
bank!

https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...aspirated.html

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

subshooter 11-21-2017 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by pfan (Post 14620591)
And they're likely all spoken for by the 918 owners mafia. :grr:

So were the GT4s but I know a 30 something year old that got two of them who never even owned a GT car before. Porsche also upped the allocations for the GT4 based on huge demand. If people want this Spyder with the GT3 engine, they will get it (minus one).

Rezus 11-21-2017 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by subshooter (Post 14620605)
Yeah, they said that when the 981 GT4/Spyder came out..... "there is no way they would put a 911S engine in that car"....and then BOOM! Seriously, Porsche is going to make the best out of that platform. The GT3 engine in the GT4/Spyder has been rumored for over a year. I understand that they couldn't fit the turbos into the engine compartment anyway but maybe a 4.0L. I'm going to go bankrupt.

People were asking for proper flat 6 out of Carrera S in a souped up Cayman/Boxster for a decade before we finally saw it happen just a couple of years ago, To think that they would go on and put their newest and best engine in a Boxster right away is a bit too optimistic, having said that, nothing wrong with a little dreaming.

subshooter 11-21-2017 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Z356 (Post 14620612)
Frankly, that it's a bit of 'sloppy' reporting
by Autocar.

Maybe. But over 10 auto magazines are now reporting this online today. It could just be circular reporting based on a rumor. I think this rumor has legs though.

Z356 11-22-2017 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by subshooter;14620628
Maybe. But over 10 auto magazines
are now reporting this online today. It
could just be circular reporting based
on a rumor. I think this rumor has legs
though.

I think you missed my point. The 718
Spyder will have a N/A engine. There
is no question about that! Dr. Blume is
on record on that score! The 'sloppy'
part on Autocar's reporting is quoting
Andreas Preuninger when the later is
NOT responsible for the Spyder's
engineering since it's not a gt project!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

randr 11-22-2017 12:47 AM

Its the state of tune thats more important (also there was nothing wrong with the 3.8l NA in the 981 Spyder and GT4) - the amount of airflow in is very important to the overall long term performance and reliability (which will govern the state of tune).

I don't think they'll be any issue getting your hands on either a GT4 or Spyder. There wasn't last time (at least over here) just go and put a small deposit down and get on the list - its that easy. Personally, although I like the Spyder, I think the Boxster GTS is way more practical and if you want a GT car, well reach for the GT3 it's less compromised than the GT4.

Also keep in mind AP is as much a salesman as he is an engineer e.g. read his comments in reference to the GT2 RS :) . He plays to his audience.

Personally I'd like to see a GT4 offered without compromise e.g. PDK plus the performance fruit (RAS-PDCC) linked to an engine that has a lot of head room and more flexible dynamic range e.g. 3ll twin turbo. Heresy I know :)


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