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Old 11-22-2017 | 10:46 AM
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I’m first on the list for the next GT4 at my dealer (which probably means 6th after the 918 guys) and I’m not expecting a GT3 engine. AP said with the first GT4 that it was an entry level GT car—which was one of the reasons it was such a hit. If they put the GT engine in it the price skyrockets to just below the GT3 and it loses some of its appeal. Of course, either way there will be a mad rush to buy them all. It must be good to be Porsche right now.
Old 11-22-2017 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fancy
This sounds too good to be true.

They are attributing quotes from months earlier to some recent spyphotos of a Boxster Spyder.

I would love to see Porsche finally stop artificially limiting the Cayman and Boxster from their true potential but this seems to be click bait.

There's a reason the Cayman GT4 only received the 991.1 Carrera S 3.8 instead of a real GT motor.
I mostly agree with you but the 3.8 GT3 motor was a costly error for Porsche. When you make a parts bin car, it is important to start with good parts.

This is going to sound counter intuitive.... but I think the 4.0 may be a bit much? Epic - yes. Balanced - we'll see. Frame of reference is key.... before my Porsche I was in an overpowered car with a lazy chasis that was scary to push. Porsche has a much better chasis to start so less of a concern. Stats sell cars... balance is fun.
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I believe it will be a N/A motor, but not a GT3 motor.
Old 11-22-2017 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by subshooter
I'm going through my financials right now to see how bad it would be to trade in my 2018 991.2 and 2014 981S for this beast. Man do I want a NA Boxster with a GT3 engine. Wow!
Lol not going to happen.
Old 11-22-2017 | 02:13 PM
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To those of you saying it'll be N/A but not the GT3 engine.....just what NA engine do you think will be going in there?
Old 11-22-2017 | 04:47 PM
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Old 11-22-2017 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
To those of you saying it'll be N/A but not the GT3 engine.....just what NA engine do you think will be going in there?
Exactly. AP already said the GT4 would be NA. It makes sense that the Spyder will have the same engine as the GT4 again. Porsche is not going to resurrect the 3.8L engine so there is only one NA engine left. Sure, it will be detuned.

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Lol not going to happen.
Ha ha. That is what everybody said about the Boxster/Cayman platform. Porsche would never make this model faster than the Base 911. Then the 991S engine landed in the middle of those cars.
Old 11-22-2017 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
To those of you saying it'll be N/A but not the GT3 engine.....just what NA engine do you think will be going in there?
I've read there's a secret trove of V10s leftover from when the C-GT production run was cut short due to lack of sales. Word on the street (I can neither confirm nor deny who I heard if from) is these are going into the next GT4. Without the silly Aladdin Lunchbox muffler, of course.

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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
I've read there's a secret trove of V10s leftover from when the C-GT production run was cut short due to lack of sales. Word on the street (I can neither confirm nor deny who I heard if from) is these are going into the next GT4. Without the silly Aladdin Lunchbox muffler, of course.

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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
To those of you saying it'll be N/A but not the GT3 engine.....just what NA engine do you think will be going in there?
3.8 liter with the power kit, making 430hp and 325lbs of torque, and there is no R&D involved. This is much more logical choice than detuning a 500 hp engine to low- mid 400 hp range, absolutely dumb. Why use a more expensive engine and detune it?? Considering last Spyder did not have full power of Carrera S, 385 vs 400hp, the 430 seems like a good natural progression and way more in line with Porsche's known behavior.
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Originally Posted by Rezus
3.8 liter with the power kit, making 430hp and 325lbs of torque, and there is no R&D involved. This is much more logical choice than detuning a 500 hp engine to low- mid 400 hp range, absolutely dumb. Why use a more expensive engine and detune it?? Considering last Spyder did not have full power of Carrera S, 385 vs 400hp, the 430 seems like a good natural progression and way more in line with Porsche's known behavior.
id be fine with this... I’ve got a GT3 allocation but am deliberating trading that for a 718 if it does get the 4.0.

the 430hp 3.8 will still be spectacular though!

any speculation about 981 prices once the new one is released?
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Originally Posted by Rezus
3.8 liter with the power kit, making 430hp and 325lbs of torque, and there is no R&D involved. This is much more logical choice than detuning a 500 hp engine to low- mid 400 hp range, absolutely dumb. Why use a more expensive engine and detune it?? Considering last Spyder did not have full power of Carrera S, 385 vs 400hp, the 430 seems like a good natural progression and way more in line with Porsche's known behavior.
Except for the small fact that it’s no longer federalized for sale and hasn’t been since the 2016 Model Year. So that plan is out as Porsche won’t spend millions to certify the engine for such a low volume vehicle. The GT3 engine is federalized so it makes sense to install it in as many platforms as possible.
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I heard it will have the GT3 engine, however it will be detuned as to be closer to the 400hp mark
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Except for the small fact that it €™s no longer federalized for sale and hasn €™t been since the 2016 Model Year. So that plan is out as Porsche won €™t spend millions to certify the engine for such a low volume vehicle. The GT3 engine is federalized so it makes sense to install it in as many platforms as possible.
What does that mean and how do you know if it is federalized or not and how much it costs? It was an engine that was approved and passed emissions so not sure why it would be costly to keep using it.
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Originally Posted by Rezus
3.8 liter with the power kit, making 430hp and 325lbs of torque, and there is no R&D involved.
That ship has sailed. The factory isn't producing this engine anymore. They would have to retool and recertify again.

Originally Posted by Rezus
This is much more logical choice than detuning a 500 hp engine to low- mid 400 hp range, absolutely dumb. Why use a more expensive engine and detune it?? Considering last Spyder did not have full power of Carrera S, 385 vs 400hp, the 430 seems like a good natural progression and way more in line with Porsche's known behavior.
Huh? Porsche does this all the time. They did it with the 991.2 engine. They also did it with the 3.4 L engine (981 & Base 911). It makes perfect sense. It's not dumb at all. It's cost effective.


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