Opinions on buying a MT CPO
#16
Rennlist Member
check this out. Syncros are technically covered, as they are not listed in excluded items
https://www.porsche.com/usa/approved...ures/warranty/
#17
Originally Posted by GregD
Yeah the clutch is not *that* expensive. My independant quoted just over 2K when I asked, not that I need one yet.
I've never thought of that as an issue honestly... I've always bought my porsches slightly used and stick and never-ever got a clutch issue.
You can tell a lot from a test drive. Does it slip (bury the gas in a higher gear and look at the revs), does it shift OK ? We're not talking a 915 gearbox with a dead 2nd gear syncros here. If the car is low miles and CPO and feels right, I would buy without a care in the world...
I know this argument is not scientific but how many people would purposely buy a stick 991 to learn how to use a clutch ? ;-) I'd say most folks who got that car have experience.
I've never thought of that as an issue honestly... I've always bought my porsches slightly used and stick and never-ever got a clutch issue.
You can tell a lot from a test drive. Does it slip (bury the gas in a higher gear and look at the revs), does it shift OK ? We're not talking a 915 gearbox with a dead 2nd gear syncros here. If the car is low miles and CPO and feels right, I would buy without a care in the world...
I know this argument is not scientific but how many people would purposely buy a stick 991 to learn how to use a clutch ? ;-) I'd say most folks who got that car have experience.
This continual shifting at high rpm is my greatest fear in purchasing a pre-owner as this component abuse is extremely difficult to check for and may or may not (... ask just luck would have have it) appear as an issue during the warrantee period.
Any thoughts on this ?
#18
I would imagine that "some" but these cars to really enjoy them and by "enjoy" rev the hell out of the engine and continuously shift above 4K gear-to-gear. Thereby wearing out the syncros.
This continual shifting at high rpm is my greatest fear in purchasing a pre-owner as this component abuse is extremely difficult to check for and may or may not (... ask just luck would have have it) appear as an issue during the warrantee period.
Any thoughts on this ?
This continual shifting at high rpm is my greatest fear in purchasing a pre-owner as this component abuse is extremely difficult to check for and may or may not (... ask just luck would have have it) appear as an issue during the warrantee period.
Any thoughts on this ?
#19
I’m doubtful that shifting above 4K is going to hurt the gearbox, as long as the shifting is decent. People track these cars and I’ve seen few reports of manual gearbox failure. If you’re seldom going to take it over 4K perhaps focus on a 991.2 because of the torque. Because of local speed limits and traffic I seldom get go go above 4K and I feel guilty about that.
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#20
I would say SO long as there are NO over revs in range 2 + and the transmission and clutch feels fine , go for it!
There are so many factors of buying a used car above and beyond the transmission that I really think it's pointless to worry...
I also have to believe these transmissions were built to take some abuse seeing that they are used for PDK which shifts faster and harder than even the most brutal manual transmission driver , despite the fact that the next gear is pre loaded during fast up or down shifting there is some serious internal parts movement going on...
There are so many factors of buying a used car above and beyond the transmission that I really think it's pointless to worry...
I also have to believe these transmissions were built to take some abuse seeing that they are used for PDK which shifts faster and harder than even the most brutal manual transmission driver , despite the fact that the next gear is pre loaded during fast up or down shifting there is some serious internal parts movement going on...
#21
Anyway there is really nothing we can do to help your fears.... *You* can drive a potential purchase and get a good feel for the syncros, the 991 is a little notchy when cold 1st to 2nd, and *you* can test to see if the clutch slips as we mentioned above (put a load on it in a high gear). That's pretty much it... If history shows anything (old IMS issues), a Porche that's been driven enthusiastically is often in better shape than one that was lugged at 2000 RPM ;-)
Or you could buy new, which is the best option, that way I'll have something to buy in a couple of years ;-) I need some of you guys to uncheck the PDK option, dammit !
Best of luck !!!
#22
Pro
Search for an MT that has the sports chrono package and hope the owner used the rev matching feature.