Sorry, no, I don't have info to share.


I just wonder if this time there will be a 991.2 "black edition" and, if so, when and what characteristics it will have.


If there is one, I assume it will be a 2019 model year and, if it is like with the previous models, it will be a black on black base with some of the nice "sporty" options for a reduced price.


Any P-experts want to play ball?

 

If they do release one, I'm sure it will have the same options as the 991.1

 

Carrera T is the new Black Edition.

 

You could always get a black one with black interior and call it the black edition.

 

This.

 

Precisely, to consider this possibility is why I started the thread.


992 seems to be coming mid 2019 as a 2020 MY. If the "T" is only a 2018MY edition, that leaves the possibility of a 2019MY "black edition" as the "special parts bin offer" to accelerate sales before the new model comes.


Anyone know how many of the past black edition models sold? Was it a success or not? Just curious

 

I had a 991.1 Black Edition. Great value. Would not hesitate to get another.

 

A few of them for sale with small discounts, assuming the buyers got some discount over MRSP, if they sell close to asking the depreciaron in this 2 years would be minimal...

I looked at the black edition as an alternative for a CPO “S”, but decided for the later.

If they launch another version it might be great value IMHO.

 

Where did you get this info from? 992 is scheduled to be announced this December at the LA Auto Show.

 

My bad then, I thought it was supposed to came later. In that case, it will be a 2019.2 model, right? Still allows for a 2019.1 black edition as 2019.1?

 

Most of the auto rags are saying the 992 is a MY2019. I recall (but can't find the article) that Porsche confirmed this as a fact.

As for the Black Edition: I think Porsche should do this especially with the 991.2. Since the Black edition only comes out as a Base model, and with the new turbo engines that is all the car you need for the street (unlike the base 991.1). It is easy for them to do since it is just a parts bin special at the end of the model life.

On the other hand, I would bet the Base 991.2 is selling much better than the Base 991.1 so maybe they don't need to do this and the 911T is filling the requirement.

 

The base 992 is definitely not even selling better than even the last year of the base 991, never mind it’s earlier years.

Even so, I doubt Porsche would make model decisions so fast as to decide on a model due to how well it’s selling at an immediate moment. These things get decided on long in advance.

I’m predicting the T will be the Black Edition. But if the 991 goes for another MY (‘19) it’ll certainly get another package-deal model to keep it spiced up for its last year.

 

I really meant to make the point that the ratio of sales for the base to the S is going to be higher for the .2 than the .1. I don't have data, just a guess because the .2 Base is such a huge step up from the previous model and faster than the .1S/GTS.

However, I would challenge you on the lack luster sales for the .2. Are you not basing that comment on US sales figures alone? How do you know that the reason sales are down in the US is not due to PAG shifting allocations from the US to China? We don't know world demand on the limited Stuttgart capacity for the 911. With the reduction of the 911 engine displacement from 3.8 to 3.0 L (within the high Chinese tax on displacements over 3.0L), demand in China must have picked way up. With X capacity at Stuttgart, I would move allocations to the market with the growing demand and now the #1 Porsche market on the planet - China. Wouldn't you?

 

You may be right about the T.

But...can you back the statement above with some actual numbers and their sources? I've seen you mention that the 991.2 isn't selling well many times, but I'm curious to see the numbers for North America as well as RoW. Not doubting you, but would love to see your sources.

 

There is a lot of evidence that the new 911 is selling at a rate lower than the .1. Panorama magazine has been showing this trend over the past couple of years. But to your point (and mine above), ROW data matter a lot.