992 Next Generation-- rage free thread
11-03-2017 | 12:37 PM
#31
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,861
Likes: 138
From: Toronto
The 911 is dead! To hell with those digital gauges! It died with that! No wait.
....ah, It died when they added turbos! (991.2) No wait.
....ah, when they added electric power steering (991.1). No wait.
....ah, when they added DFI (997.2). No wait.
....ah, when they made it look like a classic 911, but it's not air cooled! (997.1). No wait
.....ah, when they put fried egg headlights on it (996.2) No wait
....ah, when they shared headlights and interior with the Boxster (991.1) No wait
...ah, when they got rid of the upright fenders! Looks like a coke bottle! (993). No wait
...ah, when they changed the suspension, damn it! (964). No wait
And on.
And on.
And on.
The 911 has been ruined about 13 times. But we still buy them, and they still spank the competition.
....ah, It died when they added turbos! (991.2) No wait.
....ah, when they added electric power steering (991.1). No wait.
....ah, when they added DFI (997.2). No wait.
....ah, when they made it look like a classic 911, but it's not air cooled! (997.1). No wait
.....ah, when they put fried egg headlights on it (996.2) No wait
....ah, when they shared headlights and interior with the Boxster (991.1) No wait
...ah, when they got rid of the upright fenders! Looks like a coke bottle! (993). No wait
...ah, when they changed the suspension, damn it! (964). No wait
And on.
And on.
And on.
The 911 has been ruined about 13 times. But we still buy them, and they still spank the competition.
11-04-2017 | 03:48 PM
#33
8th Gear
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
It makes a lot of sense. Porsche first did this on the GT3RS, often a test bed for designs that filter down to the normal 911 range. A larger diameter tire creates a larger tire patch without having to increase width. I believe AP cited 17% increase on the RS. That is significant. It is larger longitudinally, so it increases directional stability, and wet performance. All very favorable, especially for a rear engine design 911. Plus a little smoother ride. The only downsides, rotational inertia and effective gearing, a larger wheel eats more power. But just as with the RS they got that one covered with the big power increase.
Mules are caked in duct tape and experimental camo which for the most part is irrelevant, easily discarded in production. Wheel diameter though must be engineered into the suspension, drive train, and body. Perhaps the most significant visible design change yet it seems to be virtually unnoticed.
Strange.
11-04-2017 | 04:44 PM
#34
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,452
Likes: 140
You’re correct!
THE 992-SERIES 911 is set to debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2018. It will retain the classic Porsche shape but will also feature a few refinements, such as a more steeply raked windshield and more curve to the side. Headlights will feature matrix LEDs such as on the latest Audis, and indicators will be slim OLEDs. The powerplant will remain a 3.0-liter six-cylinder boxer despite rumors of a four-cylinder, and standard power jumps to a whopping 415 hp from the current 991's 370 hp. The Carrera S will have 463 hp, according to Porsche. Additional models within the line are anticipated, such as a more plush GTS model and the usual lightweight Club Sport version.
THE 992-SERIES 911 is set to debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2018. It will retain the classic Porsche shape but will also feature a few refinements, such as a more steeply raked windshield and more curve to the side. Headlights will feature matrix LEDs such as on the latest Audis, and indicators will be slim OLEDs. The powerplant will remain a 3.0-liter six-cylinder boxer despite rumors of a four-cylinder, and standard power jumps to a whopping 415 hp from the current 991's 370 hp. The Carrera S will have 463 hp, according to Porsche. Additional models within the line are anticipated, such as a more plush GTS model and the usual lightweight Club Sport version.
What we need are photos of the 991 and 992 being tested together (i.e visually next to each other), as that’s the only way to get a true idea of the nuanced differences. I remember seeing those pics somewhere but can’t recall where.
11-04-2017 | 05:39 PM
#35
Racer
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 381
Likes: 7
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Where are they getting this info from? I don’t think Porsche would reveal confirmed HP figures to anyone. 415 would be monstrous for a base. I predict 390 or so.
What we need are photos of the 991 and 992 being tested together (i.e visually next to each other), as that’s the only way to get a true idea of the nuanced differences. I remember seeing those pics somewhere but can’t recall where.
What we need are photos of the 991 and 992 being tested together (i.e visually next to each other), as that’s the only way to get a true idea of the nuanced differences. I remember seeing those pics somewhere but can’t recall where.
11-04-2017 | 07:11 PM
#36
Thread Starter
Pro
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 708
Likes: 8
From: CT
Surprised to say, in all the pages of comments no one else seems to have noticed the larger rear wheels. Could be wrong, but they sure look bigger to me.
It makes a lot of sense. Porsche first did this on the GT3RS, often a test bed for designs that filter down to the normal 911 range. A larger diameter tire creates a larger tire patch without having to increase width. I believe AP cited 17% increase on the RS. That is significant. It is larger longitudinally, so it increases directional stability, and wet performance. All very favorable, especially for a rear engine design 911. Plus a little smoother ride. The only downsides, rotational inertia and effective gearing, a larger wheel eats more power. But just as with the RS they got that one covered with the big power increase.
Mules are caked in duct tape and experimental camo which for the most part is irrelevant, easily discarded in production. Wheel diameter though must be engineered into the suspension, drive train, and body. Perhaps the most significant visible design change yet it seems to be virtually unnoticed.
Strange.
It makes a lot of sense. Porsche first did this on the GT3RS, often a test bed for designs that filter down to the normal 911 range. A larger diameter tire creates a larger tire patch without having to increase width. I believe AP cited 17% increase on the RS. That is significant. It is larger longitudinally, so it increases directional stability, and wet performance. All very favorable, especially for a rear engine design 911. Plus a little smoother ride. The only downsides, rotational inertia and effective gearing, a larger wheel eats more power. But just as with the RS they got that one covered with the big power increase.
Mules are caked in duct tape and experimental camo which for the most part is irrelevant, easily discarded in production. Wheel diameter though must be engineered into the suspension, drive train, and body. Perhaps the most significant visible design change yet it seems to be virtually unnoticed.
Strange.
Wasn't sure if my eyes were completely accurate.As for the grip improvement, it makes tons of sense, especially for a rear engine car, though they could just run a taller sidewall instead of making the rim a size bigger.
Cup cars have been doing this for a while now.