4pipes

I’d buy it if I didn’t have the S already.

STG

Outside of the GT models, Porsche is really striking out lately.

Marketing over substance. Although, guys are seeing through the marketing and showing in their sales.

Give buyers what they want over what you think you can get them to buy.

GiuseppeM

Other than not making any sense (and not getting any credit back) how can they offer Radio Delete in the US if rear camera is mandatory next year?

Al.Fresco

If I buy it, can I add an "urbo" to the badging???

subshooter

Ok....after reading more....I am interested and take back my yawn comment.

This sounds pretty cool:

"shorter transmission ratios from the manual gearbox and rear-wheel drive with mechanical rear differential lock for an enhanced performance and intense driving pleasure."

" also boasts several other equipment features that are not available for the 911 Carrera, including the PASM sports chassis as standard, lowered by 20 mm, the weight-optimised Sport Chrono Package, a shortened shift lever with red shift pattern and Sport-Tex seat centres. The rear-axle steering, which is not available for the 911 Carrera, is available as an option for the 911 Carrera T."

STG

Except it has the wrong kind of engine in it

This model is the Costco version of the R and GT3 Touring model.

GiuseppeM

^ I thought the same thing

STG

Yeah, why not do a naturally aspirated engine in a model like this? Would be a GREAT idea and nice alternative.

subshooter

I agree with this point but I think Turbos are here to stay....but I would MUCH rather have the NA engine sound. Porsche has to keep their mpg/emissions for their fleet low and NAs are not doing it. In 10 years we will be begging for the Turbos to come back as the hybrids and EVs come rolling off the Zuffenhausen production line.

It also has the Costco price......

GiuseppeM

It sucks, it’s because of CO2 emissions regulations

STG

I’m not buying it. Look at all the other models that can carry that weight. Like the new Carrera is that much better.

What it comes down to, is MARKETING and catering to the Asian markets and the Euros who think the sky is falling and will have us riding horses and buggies if they could.

Best thing we can do is put our $$$$ where our mouth is.

Lapis

Ok. After reading I gotta say, sounds like the best version of the regular (non-GT) 911 range....

LWB bucket seats (unavailable on anything other than a GT car otherwise), manual trans w/shorter throws, SPASM suspension lower 20mm, mechanical rear diff, and some nice cosmetic bits especially on interior that would otherwise only be doable at high cost with Exclusive. cool.

Put another way, this is what the base 911 should have always been. Despite less power, with a manual, buckets, SPASM and rear diff, this will probably be the most entertaining 911 short of a GT3 to wind out and run through some of your favorite twisty roads. Too bad they couldn’t just toss in the old NA engine from the 991.1 GTS!

Still, though, the naming confuses it with the GT3 Touring.

R_Rated

So the reasons for a #2 car are engine and infotainment. Infotainment is gone and this is meant to be a lightweight drivers car that is laughably any lighter and has the less of a drivers engine. Got it. Would rather have a base 991.1 which is lighter btw.

R_Rated

Only if you don't re center it!

R_Rated

Still heavier than a #1 car...